[maths] Nelson's Reply to Ned's post

  • From: "P. R. Stanley" <prstanley@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: maths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:06:34 +0000

Ned,

  No, sec A does not approach tan A as A approaches 90 degrees; both of =
them grow without bound as A approaches pi/2.  However, both curves are =
asymptotic to the vertical line at A =3D 90 degrees (as well as to each =
other); i.e., the distances between them approach 0.

  1/x approaches 0 (in the limit) as x grows infinite; 1/x approaches 2 =
in the limit as x approaches 1/2, and indeed, it equals 2 when x=3D1/2.=20

  Don't confuse limits with asymptotes although two curves that are =
asymptotic to one another may sometimes have the same limit.=20

  For example, The hyperbola y =3D x + 1/x has the line y=3Dx as one of =
its two asuymptotes (the other being the line x=3D0), but x + 1/x does =
not approach x as x grows infinite; it is said to be asymptotic to x.

  --Nelson
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ned Granic=20
  To: maths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:00 AM
  Subject: [maths] calculus - limits


  Hi all,

  Apparently, I shall be the first one to ask a question on this new =
list. What an honor!
  So, here it goes:
  The idea of a limit is illustrated by the secant line approaching the =
tangent line.
  Does that mean it never coincides with the tangent line at any point =
whatsoever?

  Many thanks in advance!
  There is more to come.
  Ned
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Ned,
 
  No, sec A does not approach tan = A as A=20 approaches 90 degrees; both of them grow without bound as A approaches=20 pi/2.  However, both curves are asymptotic to the vertical line at = A =3D 90=20 degrees (as well as to each other); i.e., the distances between them = approach=20 0.
 
  1/x approaches 0 (in the limit) = as x grows=20 infinite; 1/x approaches 2 in the limit as x approaches 1/2, and indeed, = it=20 equals 2 when x=3D1/2.
 
  Don't confuse limits with = asymptotes=20 although two curves that are asymptotic to one another may sometimes = have the=20 same limit.
 
  For example, The hyperbola y =3D = x + 1/x has=20 the line y=3Dx as one of its two asuymptotes (the other being the line = x=3D0), but x=20 + 1/x does not approach x as x grows infinite; it is said to be = asymptotic to=20 x.
 
  --Nelson
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ned = Granic
To: maths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, November 04, = 2006 2:00=20 AM
Subject: [maths] calculus - = limits

Hi all,
 
Apparently, I shall be the first ask a=20 question on this new list. What an honor!
So, here it goes:
The idea of a limit is illustrated by = the secant=20 line approaching the tangent line.
Does that mean it never coincides = with the=20 tangent line at any point whatsoever?
 
Many thanks in advance!
There is more to come.
Ned

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