I haven't noticed the tabbing thing, but--as I might have mentioned once or twice--I find the email thing irritating. It's fine if you use the preview method, and I know many people really like using it that way, but the reasons I didn't do it still exist, so I find it just as annoying as the need for more interaction. And form fields on Safari for me are pretty annoying, too. I didn't realise for a while, because most things I was filling in were one-line things, but in the last few days, I've had to write stuff of a couple paragraphs. I can get it to read by character or word like I always did, but as far as reading by line goes, I can get the first one of each paragraph spoken, but that's it. I either just get silence for the rest, or new line. My crankiness, it grows. On 18 Jun 2010, at 13:47, David Poehlman wrote: > All; > > I've noticed since the update to osx.6.4 that interuptability in vo has > deteriorated. even if you hit control in a dialogue for instance and then > tab, it babbles. if I press tab without hitting control it babbles. > > It is harder to read messages. some that I used to only had to read with the > vo cursor or turn vo on and off to read now just say message content with vo > and I have to interact with this. These are unpleasant changes. > >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >