all, First, I appologize for miss stating the answer to the question perhaps of how to go to form controls in another thread. Second, it had too many questions in one message. third. for all vo commands, you can press vo-h followed by vo-h in other words, press vo and press h twice and you will see commands listed by grouping. Many comands that are helpful on the web are found in the find section. > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >