I suppose this might be bordering on the off topic, because, strictly speaking, its not a "how to" question. But it does involve getting the most out of your MAC with VO, so here goes. I'd be curious to hear what gestures or groups of gestures those of you with trackpads, magic or on the Macbook pro, have found to be the most useful, efficient, helped you use your Mac more fluently and easily, and how you organized them. When faced with a bunch of possibilities, it seems like it would be useful to organize things into logical groups, e.g. control key plus gesture for certain related commands, command plus gesture for another etc, rather like what Apple did with the preassigned numeric pad commander commands, where, for instance, all the web-related commands equate to various keypad keys plus the keypad insert key. Mary > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >