[macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone

  • From: patrickneazer <patrickneazer@xxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:56:10 -0400

Hello Marco and all:

There is no disagreement over one's personal preference. If someone prefers one particular device over another that is perfectly within there right.

It must be pointed out however that

1. Touch screen technology is a reality that all persons ... including persons with visual impairments must engage whether I like it or not (smile).

2. In order to have a windows mobile device or a symbian device function adequately for a person with a visual impairment to use it effectively and efficiently one must invest in an additional software package. In order to get my Nokias o work in a manner in which I could use them I had to pay one price to purchase the software and another amount to upgrade the software and it was not an upgrade actually. Rather, it was the price I had to pay when I wanted to change phones. I am not complaining ... companies have the right to sell a product. However, the Iphone offers accessibility and pricing equality out of the box.

3. And this is an opinion more than anything ... Microsoft has not demonstrated itself to be on the cutting edge of accessibility. Rather, they have left that job up to third party developers with varying degrees of cooperation. When Apple made the decision to return to putting its weight behind accessibility for vision the equation was changed.

I am not criticizing windows. I have used it and taught it. However, it was expensive to the consumer.

And besides, standing in line for an Iphone is cool. I never stood in line for any of my Nokias (wink).
On Jun 29, 2009, at 10:33 PM, Marco wrote:

I disagree with you in part. I prefer the windows qwerty keyboard with the one key functions like delete and move and reply on my palm treo pro. When I compared the two, I saw that the windows mobile device is infinitely faster to type on and to manipulate messages. But I do love the concept of the touch screen and one can be sure that bill gates will be coming out with a competitor to the IPhone soon.

Marco


From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ] On Behalf Of patrickneazer
Sent: June 29, 2009 9:58 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone

Hello David and all:

Yes, and the iphone user will not looked as beaten down as the window's user looks at the end of the day (wink).
On Jun 29, 2009, at 8:22 AM, David Poehlman wrote:


Oh, me too, but it's not a question of smarts. anyone who can wind their way through windows can certainly use an IPhone unless they have dexterity issues and even then, flick and tab works well for the most part.

On Jun 29, 2009, at 7:34 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hey, I sympathize with him! *grin*
Donna

-----Original Message-----
From: David Poehlman <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:46 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone

can you breathe?

On Jun 28, 2009, at 11:52 PM, Keith Reedy wrote:

Hey, its gonna happen, I'm just about to take the plunge, I just
wonder if I am smart enough to work one of these things.

Keith Reedy


On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:29 PM, patrickneazer wrote:


Hello Donna and all:

Good heavens (smile). Why wait (wink). Just think how much fun you
will have calling people from your Iphone over the holiday weekend.
You can send your first text message telling people that you wish
they were here and you can even take a snapshot of the
surroundings ... camera works great. Captured my first picture and
now that picture is the photo that pops up when they call. Not
everyone will think that is useful or practical though I do (smile).
The picture came out pretty well ... impress your friends.

I am an NPR fan and my Niece already got her little hands around the
Iphone (smile). I was close by and she could not do more damage to
the phone than I could. Currently, I think she will enjoy the other
phone better ... has Mobile TV on it and she is a fan of the Cartoon
network (smile).

OK, enough family history though I will finish by saying given that
I can listen to tunes while on a call my aversion to headphones is
giving way. This gadget just might cause changes in thinking (wink).

Run out and get one today ... who knows ... you buying one might put
Keith over the edge (smile). Keith, you are next (smile).
On Jun 28, 2009, at 10:10 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Good morning, Patrick,

Well, it's good to know I'm not the only one who doesn't like
wearing headphones. And I have to say, if my poor brain can handle
the multitasking, it'd be cool to listen to music while on a call.
I think your messages have been successful, the urge to run out and
try it is growing stronger by the moment. I imagine I'll have to
succumb soon, but can't decide whether to do it now, and be
learning to use it while on our 4th of July pilgrimage to visit the
fam, or wait till after we get back.

BTW, re your niece, don't know if you're an NPR fan, but they had
an amusing segment on All Things Considered a few weeks back about
people's kids, nieces etc getting hold of their electronic toys.
One of the stories featured someone whose toddler niece did manage
to get hold of the iphone. I wouldn't recommend it! *smile*
Cheers,
Donna

From: patrickneazer <patrickneazer@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 9:55 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone

Good morning Donna and all:

Beware I also have an aversion to wearing headphones. Though I must
confess I found myself on a call with the Ipod playing in the
background. If the sound quality of the Iphone's ipod was not so
good I might have turned it off. Instead, I found myself enjoying
both the music and the call. Never thought it would happen though
it might happen again (smile).

Even if that does not appeal to you ... run out and try it. Once
you pick it up it is contagious (wink).


On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

I guess I'm just going to have to try this out, it's really hard
to picture! *smile* But, it's good to year yours and Cheryl's
assurances that this can be done. I don't know why I have such an
aversion to headphones, but I really dislike wearing them, unless
I'm listening to music or something like that. And, we don't have
a land line, so frequently I'll go running across the house to
wherever I happened to have left my phone. It's nice to just be
able to hit that left soft key and be on the call.

So, thanks for the feeddback, I will keep my enthusiasm for
getting an IPhone alive! :)
Best,
Donna

From: patrickneazer <patrickneazer@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 2:23 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone

Good morning Donna and all:

Donna. You can relight your enthusiasm for getting an Iphone
(smile). It is not a requirement to have a head set on to answer
or hang up from calls. You can do both quite nicely without the
headset. I had to get used to the reality that moving the Iphone
toggles the speaker phone. It was not an annoyance just a little
surprising at first (wink). My niece thought it was pretty cool
(smile). Now to keep her from running off with it. Is there an app
for that?


On Jun 27, 2009, at 9:50 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi all,

As one who doesn't yet have an iphone, the problem is this issue
of requiring a headset.  I don't *want to *have to wear a head
set to use this phone.  Apple really needs to address this.  I
was really hot about getting the iphone, now I'm pulling back.
If I can't answer and end a call unless I'm wearing headphones,
this isn't a phone I'm ever going to buy.
Best,
Donna

-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lodro Rigdzin
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:51 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone

The iphone headset that comes with the phone has a microphone
afaik

-original message-
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone
From: "Marco" <news@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 27/06/2009 19:22

I thought that the 3GS came with a ear bud set with a mic on the
cord.
My
nokia phone has this on the ear buds and it works great for
answering
and
ending calls as well as talking handsfree.

Maybe it is under the accessories page that apple has under
apple.com/accessibility.

I've not checked out this sight yet but maybe it might have
suggestions
for
accessibility devices that will make your IPhone experience even
better.

Marco


-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cheryl
Homiak
Sent: June 27, 2009 8:42 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone

I don't want to put in those earbuds for every call or walk around
with the earbuds on all the time in case somebody calls me.
So if I can't hear voiceover say "answer" and "end call"
I  just double tap until it answers or hangs up. Usually, though
not
always, it will eventually hang up
anyway. A couple of times I haven't managed to answer till the
third or
fourth ring but I haven't actually missed a call this way yet.
What we
probably need is an independent way to turn up voiceover without
having
to
get it to talk to turn it up. I wonder: if you had a real
headset with
the
microphone built on instead of just the earbuds, is there an auto-
answer
setting? Or could you get a headset with an answer button on the
headset?
These might be options if you didn't mind wearing a headset all
the
time,
though I think I'd rather not do this.


--
Cheryl

"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."


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