HI list. well, I rebooted, turned speakable items on and off, and changed the key from esc to f 10 and now it seems to be working. now to go find a list of commands i can issue. I know switch to finder and what time is it? lol Maria Chapman bubbygirl1972@xxxxxxxxx "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." - Mahatma Gandhi