Hi all, both in leopard, and snow leopard, you can use first letter navigation to get to an item, no matter which view you're in, but I find in list view, once I press r for radio, that if I want the third item down, I have to press the letter r, then arrow down twice, it was this way in leopard, as well as in snow leopard, but now in snow leopard, when you move to another item, after voice over starts speaking the name of the item you're on, you get silence, even though the voice over cursor moves there, so you have to up arrow, and back down again to make sure you're on the item you want, and I personally would preferre that voice over just say finder when I exit an application, because then I could type the name of the next thing I'd want to go to, and have voice over speak. On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 10:10:53 -0400, David Poehlman wrote: right, but if you press s, and then press s again, it speaks the app. On Sep 9, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Tommaso Nonis wrote: I have leopard, and it doesn't move you that way. You need to press the s and the second letter in order to move from app to app beginning with the same character. The way you describe, as far as I am aware, works in windows. > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the > Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > Marty