[macvoiceover] Re: say all equivalent in safari

  • From: Travis Siegel <windowbridge@xxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:29:36 -0600

Marty.
In safari, the standard shift arrow command that highlights text like in text edit and other text boxes won't work. 
That's why they have the vo enter to start/end selections.
You can assign a hotkey to read selected text, but it needs to be done in the vo utility, though I forget exactly where it is at the moment. On the other hand, if you use group mode, and your story is all in a single group, reading it is as simple as moving onto the text, and then it's all spoken as a group. The other alternative, is just to use vo-a at the top of the page, and just put up with the extra stuff, and let it read the whole page top to bottom, left to right. This works well if the story is the only (or nearly only) item on the page, but doesn't work so well if its surrounded by all kinds of other stuff as most pages are. I use group mode all the time, because I find it considerably easier to skip areas of the page I am not interested in, and its much easier to get to content I want to see. Yes, I need to interact with the groups if you need to get to a link, or know how to spell something, but I consider this a minor trade-off for the convenience of having the page more or less automatically read as I move across it. 


On Nov 29, 2008, at 10:42 AM, Marty Rimpau wrote:
Hi David, can you just start selecting text like you can in windows, or 
do you have to use vo enter to turn on text selection?  The reason why
I ask is because, let's say you want to start selecting text, and you
know roughly where you want to stop, in windows, you can use shift down 
arrow, and even over shoot yourself, and then up arrow to unselect the
text you don't want, then copy and paste.  In the case where you've
selected too many lines, how do you delete the line from the selected
text you don't want, and hope this makes sense.
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:37:07 -0500, David Poehlman wrote:

Press command-a while on a web page, open text edit, press command-v,
then
go to format menu with command-f and arrow over till you find it, down
arrow
to text submenu, right arrow once and down arrow to make plain text and 

press enter.  The hot key is command-shift-t.
Then, try control-option-a to see if the text is read.  There is
another
option if you don't want the whole page and that is while on the page
in
safari, control-option-arrow till you find where you want to start,
control-option-enter to turn on vo selection, control-option-arrows
till you
get to the end of what you want to select, control-option-enter to turn 
off
vo selection, command-c, go to text edit, command-v to paste it in and
turn
it to plain text.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tasha Raella Chemel" <tashiegirl@xxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 9:12 AM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: say all equivalent in safari


neither of those seem to work, unfortunately.
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Stephen Guerra
 To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 8:42 AM
 Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: say all equivalent in safari


 how about control+option modifier plus L for the voice over and then
command+down arrow, if that does not work, look for the select all and
copy
with command+f2





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[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tasha Raella
Chemel
 Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 7:23 AM
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 Subject: [macvoiceover] say all equivalent in safari



 Okay, so I've just switched to the mac, and of course, I have no idea
what
 i'm doing. i'm using safari to access a webpage with a very long
story on
it
 that I would like to read straight through. I have my web navigation
set
to
 DOM. However, when I use my vo and left and right arrow keys, I can
only
get
 it to read paragraph by paragraph,  and when I interact with the
text, I
can
 only interact with a paragraph at a time. Once, I got it to treat the

whole
 story as a group, but I have no idea how this happened, and I wasn't
able
to
 interact with this group. If there is no way to read continuously
from a
 webpage, is there a way to copy and paste the whole contents of the
page
 into text edit so that I can read the story that way?
 thanks!
 Tasha



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