He all, Some months ago, about 10.7.1, I was discovering that voiceover prefferences where not completely exported. After doing a clean install, I wasn't able to import all my trackpad gestures that I had made with the command and shift key. I found it not easy to re-inisialize this personal commands so I haven't done a clean install of Lion. So, is it already possible to export the vo-prefferences from 10.7.x completely so that I can import all my preffferences in a clean install of lion? Also , about the busy problem with safari: the problem was also nearly completely gone with the clean install of lion. But, with the chrome browser, I have no busy and all seems to work. But recardo: is there already a solution for the selection of text in chrome with a double mouse click and selection with the arrow keys like it works in safari? Kind regards, William Windels Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad Op 19-feb.-2012 om 01:16 heeft Maria From Australia <bubbygirl1972@xxxxxxxxx> het volgende geschreven: > HI. I've heard webkit mentioned. is this another web browser? Is it > totally accessible? Do things like first letter navigation work? > > thanks > > Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1972@xxxxxxxxx > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 19/02/2012, at 4:58 AM, Suzanne Erb <suzerb1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Interestingly, I'm npt encountering the "Safari busy" problem, but I >> heartily concur with these suggestions. I haven't tried Chrome yet, because >> I seem to be doing okay with Webkit.Cheers, >> Suzanne >> On Feb 18, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: >> >>> Yes, I've tried Chrome and like it a lot too! It loads pages very fast! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Russell >>> On 2012-02-18, at 7:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I've thought about doing this a few times. Although annoying, I don't >>>> think I had the problem quite as bad as you did. I have pretty much >>>> switched over to google chrome for my web browsing needs. I only use >>>> Safari for specific tasks. For example, If reading articles online, I >>>> will use Safari so I can use the article reader mode. Or, if I know I'm >>>> going to be visiting a site with a lot of tables. Chrome is pretty good >>>> though. And no busies. lol. >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>> >>>> On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Ricardo, >>>>> >>>>> I was so frustrated by the Safari busy problem I was seriously >>>>> considering ditching my iMac for a Windows machine. Then, over the >>>>> Christmas break, I did a clean install of Lion... totally erased my hard >>>>> drive and re-installed Lion, and my Safari busy problem is 95% better! >>>>> It's once again a pleasure to use my Mac. Might be worth a shot. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Russell >>>>> On 2012-02-17, at 8:03 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Ricardo, >>>>>> I'm not at all familiar with Jaws at this point, haven't used it since >>>>>> 2007. Could you tell me a little more about what tandem does? >>>>>> I agree with everyone else about the constant busy bug in safari as well >>>>>> as the iCloud site. >>>>>> Olivia >>>>>> , >>>>>> On Feb 17, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> lol, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah. These are all bugs that have gone, come back, and has left since >>>>>>> updating to Lion. Most I admit are just minor annoyances one just >>>>>>> deals with when using a computer but, the busy thing in Safari, thats >>>>>>> just a bad situation for a lot of people including myself. And I >>>>>>> believe it can be fixed since google chrome has no busy problem at all. >>>>>>> I've heard that the problem is with Safari not VO. Either which way, >>>>>>> if no new feature was added, and all they did was refine the features >>>>>>> added in Lion, and squash the busy bug, I would be reasonably happy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Laura wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I absolutely second the bug quashing. I'm fortunate enough not to >>>>>>>> have all the ones you mention, but those I do have are frustrating >>>>>>>> enough. The busy in Safari, in particular, is really making Lion less >>>>>>>> enjoyable to use, despite many of the other really good features. And >>>>>>>> I was really disappointed in the iCloud site. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'd also love to see Voiceover work more effectively with iWorks, and >>>>>>>> Pages especially. It does fine for most individual tasks, but for >>>>>>>> collaborative work, I've got to go back to Windows, and I can't see >>>>>>>> that changing until they get Voiceover to do a better job with track >>>>>>>> changes and comments. And on a similar theme, I'd like a few more >>>>>>>> customisation options. Something not unlike the options in JAWS, where >>>>>>>> it can react differently depending on the text attributes it >>>>>>>> encounters. At the moment, having every single text change spoken is >>>>>>>> far too much information, but just playing the same sound for all >>>>>>>> changes sometimes isn't enough. In fact, I'd welcome more >>>>>>>> customisation across the board, like being able to toggle individual >>>>>>>> VO sounds on and off, rather than it being an all or nothing deal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh, and if single key navigation could turn off automatically when you >>>>>>>> enter a form field, I think that would be a really big improvement. It >>>>>>>> was a feature I thought I'd love in Lion, and I don't use it at all. >>>>>>>> Some of that is that the rest of VO's functionality makes it much less >>>>>>>> necessary than it was with JAWS, but some of it is that I don't want >>>>>>>> to go back to what's really just the equivalent of the old JAWS >>>>>>>> version of forms mode. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 17 Feb 2012, at 00:11, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I honestly hope they spend time working out the Voiceover bugs >>>>>>>>> introduced in Lion. Like the random pitch change with the premium >>>>>>>>> voices, the endless busy in Safari, Voiceover taking a million years >>>>>>>>> to come on at start up, or the reading of those phantom windows on >>>>>>>>> start up. As far as features, I would like to see an OCR feature >>>>>>>>> like found on a couple of windows screen readers. I think this will >>>>>>>>> become standard on all major screen readers. I would also like to >>>>>>>>> see Apple clean up the iCloud site. Its terrible from an >>>>>>>>> accessibility stand point. I would really like to see them add a >>>>>>>>> remote feature for us to help other Mac users like tandem in Jaws. >>>>>>>>> This would be a big help to IT folks, and those just willing to help >>>>>>>>> others trouble shoot on the Mac. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Ashley wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>> With the release of mac os 10.8 (mountain lion) nearing, what do you >>>>>>>>>> guys think we'll see in voiceover "4.0", the next version of Vo that >>>>>>>>>> will be included in this OS? >>>>>>>>>> ash >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link >>>>>>>>>>> below. >>>>>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Users can subscribe 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