[macvoiceover] re-install lion was Re: Re: Mountain lion voiceover speculation

  • From: William Windels <william.windels@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:52:40 +0100

He all,
Some months ago, about 10.7.1, I was discovering that voiceover prefferences 
where not completely exported. After doing a clean install, I wasn't able to 
import all my trackpad gestures that I had made with the command and shift key. 
I found it not easy to re-inisialize this personal commands so I haven't done a 
clean install of Lion.
So, is it already possible to export the vo-prefferences from 10.7.x completely 
so that I can import all my preffferences in a clean install of lion?
Also , about the busy problem with safari: the problem was also nearly 
completely gone with the clean install of lion.
But, with the chrome browser, I have no busy and all seems to work.
But recardo: is there already a solution for the selection of text in chrome 
with a double mouse click and selection with the arrow keys like it works in 
safari?

Kind regards,
William Windels

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 19-feb.-2012 om 01:16 heeft Maria From Australia <bubbygirl1972@xxxxxxxxx> 
het volgende geschreven:

> HI.  I've heard webkit mentioned.  is this another web browser?  Is it 
> totally accessible?  Do things like first letter navigation work?  
> 
> thanks 
> 
> Maria and my guide Karly  email bubbygirl1972@xxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 19/02/2012, at 4:58 AM, Suzanne Erb <suzerb1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> Interestingly, I'm npt encountering the "Safari busy" problem, but I 
>> heartily concur with these suggestions.  I haven't tried Chrome yet, because 
>> I seem to be doing okay with Webkit.Cheers,
>> Suzanne
>> On Feb 18, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, I've tried Chrome and like it a lot too!  It loads pages very fast!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Russell
>>> On 2012-02-18, at 7:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I've thought about doing this a few times.  Although annoying, I don't 
>>>> think I had the problem quite as bad as you did.  I have pretty much 
>>>> switched over to google chrome for my web browsing needs.  I only use 
>>>> Safari for specific tasks.  For example, If reading articles online, I 
>>>> will use Safari so I can use the article reader mode.  Or, if I know I'm 
>>>> going to be visiting a site with a lot of tables.  Chrome is pretty good 
>>>> though.  And no busies. lol.
>>>> 
>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Ricardo,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was so frustrated by the Safari busy problem I was seriously 
>>>>> considering ditching my iMac for a Windows machine.  Then, over the 
>>>>> Christmas break, I did a clean install of Lion... totally erased my hard 
>>>>> drive and re-installed Lion, and my Safari busy problem is 95% better!  
>>>>> It's once again a pleasure to use my Mac.  Might be worth a shot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Russell
>>>>> On 2012-02-17, at 8:03 PM, Olivia Norman wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Ricardo,
>>>>>> I'm not at all familiar with Jaws at this point, haven't used it since 
>>>>>> 2007.  Could you tell me a little more about what tandem does?
>>>>>> I agree with everyone else about the constant busy bug in safari as well 
>>>>>> as the iCloud site.
>>>>>> Olivia
>>>>>> ,
>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> lol,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yeah.  These are all bugs that have gone, come back, and has left since 
>>>>>>> updating to Lion.  Most I admit are just minor annoyances one just 
>>>>>>> deals with when using a computer but, the busy thing in Safari, thats 
>>>>>>> just a bad situation for a lot of people including myself.  And I 
>>>>>>> believe it can be fixed since google chrome has no busy problem at all. 
>>>>>>>  I've heard that the problem is with Safari not VO.  Either which way, 
>>>>>>> if no new feature was added, and all they did was refine the features 
>>>>>>> added in Lion, and squash the busy bug, I would be reasonably happy.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Laura wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I absolutely second the bug quashing. I'm fortunate enough not  to 
>>>>>>>> have all the ones you mention, but those I do have are frustrating 
>>>>>>>> enough. The busy in Safari, in particular, is really making Lion less 
>>>>>>>> enjoyable to use, despite many of the other really good features. And 
>>>>>>>> I was really disappointed in the iCloud site. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'd also love to see Voiceover work more effectively with iWorks, and 
>>>>>>>> Pages especially. It does fine for most individual tasks, but for 
>>>>>>>> collaborative work, I've got to go back to Windows, and I can't see 
>>>>>>>> that changing until they get Voiceover to do a better job with track 
>>>>>>>> changes and comments. And on a similar theme, I'd like a few more 
>>>>>>>> customisation options. Something not unlike the options in JAWS, where 
>>>>>>>> it can react differently depending on the text attributes it 
>>>>>>>> encounters. At the moment, having every single text change spoken is 
>>>>>>>> far too much information, but just playing the same sound for all 
>>>>>>>> changes sometimes isn't enough. In fact, I'd welcome more 
>>>>>>>> customisation across the board, like being able to toggle individual 
>>>>>>>> VO sounds on and off, rather than it being an all or nothing deal. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Oh, and if single key navigation could turn off automatically when you 
>>>>>>>> enter a form field, I think that would be a really big improvement. It 
>>>>>>>> was a feature I thought I'd love in Lion, and I don't use it at all. 
>>>>>>>> Some of that is that the rest of VO's functionality makes it much less 
>>>>>>>> necessary than it was with JAWS, but some of it is that I don't want 
>>>>>>>> to go back to what's really just the equivalent of the old JAWS 
>>>>>>>> version of forms mode.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 17 Feb 2012, at 00:11, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I honestly hope they spend time working out the Voiceover bugs 
>>>>>>>>> introduced in Lion.  Like the random pitch change with the premium 
>>>>>>>>> voices, the endless busy in Safari, Voiceover taking a million years 
>>>>>>>>> to come on at start up, or the reading of those phantom windows on 
>>>>>>>>> start up.  As far as features, I would like to see an OCR feature 
>>>>>>>>> like found on a couple of windows screen readers.  I think this will 
>>>>>>>>> become standard on all major screen readers.  I would also like to 
>>>>>>>>> see Apple clean up the iCloud site.  Its terrible from an 
>>>>>>>>> accessibility stand point.  I would really like to see them add a 
>>>>>>>>> remote feature for us to help other Mac users like tandem in Jaws.  
>>>>>>>>> This would be a big help to IT folks, and those just willing to help 
>>>>>>>>> others trouble shoot on the Mac.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Ashley wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>> With the release of mac os 10.8 (mountain lion) nearing, what do you 
>>>>>>>>>> guys think we'll see in voiceover "4.0", the next version of Vo that 
>>>>>>>>>> will be included in this OS?
>>>>>>>>>> ash
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