Yup. This is what I basically said to someone offlist. I will say this though. If you have two people say something to you at the same time there is a better than 50 50 chance you won't be able to understand either person..
On Sep 29, 2009, at 4:49 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
Hello,What the psychs actually have learned is that a larger number of inputs, such as multiple people talking, more things to visually examine, etc, means people have to divide their attention between the various inputs. Different people have different levels or abilities for multitasking, but adding inputs and focusing on them means you do not get as much from each source.The cocktail effect refers to the fact that, at a cocktail party, when people are attempting to gather as much info from multiple auditory streams as possible, they are not able to get the deeper information from the primary input stream (the person who the primary conversation is with).All of the studies about this which I have read used sighted people as the subjects. Sighted people receive between 20% and 40% of their information from the verbal input. Everything else comes from watching the person's facial expressions and body postures to running the chosen words and phraising through personal filters which are based on our sociocultural experiences throughout our lives.Consider it like a computer. When you run one program, the computer runs it quite efficiently. As you ad more programs, the computer needs to divide its processing time between all the running programs. Every computer, no matter which OS it is using, has a maximum number of programs it can run simeltaniously before it bogs down so much that it is running very slowly or programs crash or have to be closed.David Chittenden, MS, CRC, MRCAA David Poehlman wrote:all I am saying is experience proves the psychs rong. On Sep 29, 2009, at 7:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi David,Yes, I think this has gone off topic. I would like to discuss this offlist if your willing.,On Sep 29, 2009, at 7:13 AM, David Poehlman wrote:I think we are straying. you can effectively listen to two sound sources and some can do more than that.On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:22 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:I beg to differ. It is called the cocktail party effect. Its been empirically proven by psychologists. If your in a party and your having a conversation with the person in front of you and trying to ease drop on the couple next to you , you would probably be able to follow your friend but you wouldn't be able to engage them with details and context. You would just be nodding and uh huhing them. This is how the brain deals with sensory information. We hear everything, but we only listening to selected bits from our surroundings and ignore the rest. Well at least it is pushed farther into our unconscious..On Sep 28, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Iguanas Cambra wrote:No, that's not true!! At least I guess it doesn't work that way for everyone.On Sep 28, 2009, at 8:37 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:lol. I hear ay.I really meant I just don't like splitting my concentration. It is impossible for people to listen to 2 things at the same time. Your ears just pick up bits and pieces of each thing and your brain puts the pieces together the best it can.On Sep 28, 2009, at 8:11 AM, David Poehlman wrote:I turn the music down and the vow up. On Sep 28, 2009, at 8:03 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi,How do you listen to voiceover reading mail or something like that and listen to music or podcast? I for one find this task difficult to do. lol.On Sep 28, 2009, at 3:54 AM, giacy-vo wrote:Yes a know, but I Prefer to avoid that iTunes become the active application only to read the track information, with applescript I can hear the track information and stay with my current application for instance safari mail or text edit.Bye.Il giorno 28/set/2009, alle ore 07.53, Iguanas Cambra ha scritto:Hotspots can do that very well. On Sep 27, 2009, at 6:39 PM, giacy-vo wrote:Why not you can assign the applescript to a shortcut commander to discover really fast what you listen from radio without need to switch to itunes.bye.Il giorno 28/set/2009, alle ore 00.23, David Poehlman ha scritto:sure but it's not necessary. On Sep 27, 2009, at 5:55 PM, giacy-vo wrote:Why not use an applescript to read the current stream playing? I Think that is really simple to create an applescript that speak the current song title.bye.Il giorno 27/set/2009, alle ore 20.17, David Poehlman ha scritto:Mike;When I interact with the lcd section and then stop interacting, there are a couple of buttons in addition to the song info, one is the show next view button and the oter is the show next view button. The song info has a ticker in it so you can actually realtime track the elappsed time.On Sep 27, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Mike Reiser wrote:Thanks, seems to work pretty well, though on the Internet radio station, I can't view the info in detail. Vo will speak what's playing but when I interact with it it says the url of the stream, interesting.Mike On Sep 26, 2009, at 6:50 PM, David Poehlman wrote:Hi Mike,use vo to traverse the itunes window with your source open and playing. find and interact with the "lcd section" part of the window and there you will find the info on what's playing.On Sep 26, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Mike Reiser wrote: Hello all,Was wondering if there was a way to tell what was currently playing in itunes with vo? An example of this would be that I'm listening to an internet radio station which puts the currently playing track in the title bar. When pressing vo f2, it just says itunes window. 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