[macvoiceover] Re: radio buttons

  • From: Cheryl Homiak <cahomiak@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 11:36:51 -0600

Oh and btw, this is interesting. If you go to form controls and in form 
controls do vo-space on a radio button, you can then arrow up and down through 
the radio buttons, still in form controls, and the one you are on will be 
selected. You can then hit enter/return and the button you were on last in form 
controls is selected. But this probably doesn't help you much since you can't 
read the time of departure and arrival in the form controls area.

-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 11, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Cheryl Homiak <cahomiak@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I am afraid I don't understand why you need to do that. You can see the radio 
> buttons in the form controls but not the schedules because there is too much 
> information under each radio button for them just to have a label so you can 
> jump between them in the rotor. I just spent quite a bit of time on this 
> because I thought you had an accessibility problem. If you are handicapped so 
> that it is hard for you to do vo-right-arrow then yes you do have an 
> accessibilityu problem and we can address workarounds for this and i'll be 
> happy to help you with that as will others on this list. Otherwise, it 
> appears to me you are simply talking about something you wanted to do for 
> your convenience, something that I don't even see saving all that much time 
> and effort. I don't mean to be harsh or rude, but could you please explain 
> why this was so necessary? Again, if you have a disability that makes all 
> this movement difficult for you, I am totally willing to continue helping you!
> 
> Cheryl
> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 11, 2013, at 11:17 AM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> Yes I can do that also I just did it, but I want to just jump from radio
>> button to radio button like you can do with a check box if you choose check
>> box in the rotor
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 09:05
>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: radio buttons
>>> 
>>> What do you mean it can not be done? I did vo-keys right arrow to each
>>> one. Each one has the times, the price, a view link and then "end of
>>> list" and "list eight items"
>>> I just dhose a trip and put it in my basket and it showed up there.
>>> --
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> May the words of my mouth
>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 10:58 AM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Good job now on that page with all the trips I just want to jump from
>>> radio
>>>> button to radio button and it can not be done
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 08:55
>>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: radio buttons
>>>>> 
>>>>> Okay, I'm not sure how you did this so I did it step by step.
>>>>> Actually the first set of buttons didn't have a "United States"
>>> choice;
>>>>> there was usa english and usa spanish and of course a bunch of
>>> others
>>>>> for other countries. I chose usa english; these are the buttons that
>>>>> could only be read with the vo-shift-h.
>>>>> Next I selected the "yes" radio button.
>>>>> Next, I chose my route, first the starting point and then my
>>>>> destination.
>>>>> Next, I filled in my dates.
>>>>> Next I think this is where I hit the search button; I should have
>>> been
>>>>> writing this as I did each step. I either hit search here or after
>>> the
>>>>> disability info which I have listed next.
>>>>> Next, I did the disability info; how many passeners with a
>>> disability
>>>>> and how many needing to remain in their mobility units.
>>>>> Next I came to the schedule page and there all the radio buttons
>>> showed
>>>>> the schedules and there was a way to go to next day and previous
>>> day.
>>>>> I did the houston/Dallas-Fort Worth just as you did.
>>>>> Tell me what I did that was different than what you did and I can
>>> try
>>>>> it again to replicate your problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>> 
>>>>> May the words of my mouth
>>>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>>>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>>>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 10:24 AM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Go to megabus.com and choose united states first,
>>>>>> Now on that page you can make a rout you wish to buy and there is
>>>>> only 2
>>>>>> radio buttons on that page. they say yes radio button and no
>>>>> radiobutton
>>>>>> selected this is asking if there is anyone who needs disability
>>> help.
>>>>>> Now create a one way route I did Houston to dallas fortworth and
>>> when
>>>>> you do
>>>>>> the search you get 8 radio buttons to select which route and stop.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
>>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 08:15
>>>>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: radio buttons
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hmmmm, You told me there were eight radio buttons in one post. I
>>>>> went
>>>>>>> to the link you gave and there were nine buttons and a checkbox.
>>>>> Where
>>>>>>> exactly are you? If you can explain this, I'll be happy to look at
>>>>> it
>>>>>>> again. You are using Safari, right? Are you running Mountain Lion
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> the latest Safari?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> May the words of my mouth
>>>>>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>>>>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>>>>>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>>>>>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 10:01 AM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Your great for taking the time to help, but you must be in a
>>>>>>> different spot.
>>>>>>>> For my page says radio button when I land on one and there is  no
>>>>> vo
>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>> tag when I do the command to get the help
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
>>>>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 07:43
>>>>>>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: radio buttons
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Okay, providing I am in the right place, with the nine
>>> "buttons"
>>>>> as
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> count them, when you ask for help it's good to explain the whole
>>>>>>>>> situation. First, these must not exactly be set up as standard
>>>>> radio
>>>>>>>>> buttons because they just say button and not radio button. I
>>> have
>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>> doubt they are radio buttons but something is different on this
>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>>>> or they would read as radio buttons.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Secondly, actually these buttons do show up in form fields; it's
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> labels that don't show up not the buttons and the problem isn't
>>>>>>> moving
>>>>>>>>> from one button to another but rather knowing what the buttons
>>>>> are.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> now that i know your problem I also see the solution. Do vo-
>>> shift-
>>>>> h
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> each button; this reads the help tag which fortunately is there.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> May the words of my mouth
>>>>>>>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>>>>>>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>>>>>>>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>>>>>>>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:30 AM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> They show up in there but you need to know what they are tagged
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> i.e.  yes
>>>>>>>>>> or no for it does not say radio button before it says it after
>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> tagged for
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
>>>>>>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 07:26
>>>>>>>>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: radio buttons
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Did you try your item chooser?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> May the words of my mouth
>>>>>>>>>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>>>>>>>>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>>>>>>>>>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>>>>>>>>>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:24 AM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> They were not in the forms fields selection on the rotor and
>>> I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> choose one of 8 radio buttons that part is easy if I get to
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> button just
>>>>>>>>>>>> do a v o  spacebar and it is selectted
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:macvoiceover-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 07:22
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: radio buttons
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> radio buttons are usually in with form fields too. How many
>>>>>>> radio
>>>>>>>>>>>>> buttons are there supposed to be and do you have to activate
>>>>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or check anything to show more radio buttons. What you are
>>>>>>>>>>> describing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't the standard behavior on websites with voiceover
>>> and/or
>>>>>>>>>>> safari;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can usually find all the radio buttons.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> May the words of my mouth
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:11 AM, "George B"
>>> <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, and it only goes to the next thing to speak I mean
>>> next
>>>>>>> line
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can not find a radio button in the rotor selection using
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> arrows
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did see a check box.  where is a rotor button?  Buttons
>>> does
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:macvoiceover-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Reedy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 06:57
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: radio buttons
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you try, VO keys- right, or, left arrow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keith Reedy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:53 AM, "George B"
>>>>> <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can I jump from radio button to the next radio button
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>> mt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lion and safari
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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