[macvoiceover] Re: quick nav or not to quick nav: was: Re: Re: links in mail
- From: Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:52:41 -0500
QuickNav is a new feature in Snow Leopard.
On Dec 23, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Richie Gardenhire wrote:
> That doesn't work in Leopard; I just tried it. That must be new in Snow
> Leopard, which I don't have, as yet. I was going to get it but my wife
> talked me out of it. I have the sneaking suspicion my kids are getting it
> for me. But thanks for the correction. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
>
>
> On Dec 23, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Ray Foret jr wrote:
>
> Uh, I have to correct you on this one Rich.
>
> Quick nav is not activated by pressing control+option+semicolon. It's
> activated by pressing the left and right arrow keys together. Once you've
> done this, just press left right up and down arrows by themselves. To
> interact with an item, press down and right arrows together. To stop
> interacting, press down and left together. To activate an item, press up and
> down together. To turn quick nav off, press left and right together. What
> you were talking about was not quick nav; rather, it was the voice over lock
> feature, which, I mainly use when selecting items non contiguously.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray!!!
>
> Now a Mac User!!!
>
> Phone:
> +1 (985) 360-3614
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> E-mail:
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> On Dec 23, 2009, at 7:06 PM, Richie Gardenhire wrote:
>
> To activate Quick Nav, press VO+semicolon; Quick Nav is a way to lock the VO
> keys so that they don't have to be pressed continually. And because it's a
> toggle command, you can either turn Quick Nav on or off. When the VO keys
> are locked, it's a way to use the arrow keys similarly to using them in
> Windows, but without pressing the VO keys. Hope this makes sense. Richie
> Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
>
>
> On Dec 23, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Joe Plummer wrote:
>
> Ok, but how does it work?
>
>
>
> Sign,
> JP ( Joe Plummer)
> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Foret jr
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 7:19 PM
> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: quick nav or not to quick nav: was: Re: Re:
> links in mail
>
> Well Steph,
>
> Quick Nav is a way to use the arrow keys to navigate in Voice Over without
> having to use the key combinations control+command with the right and left
> arrow keys. If one has either a full Mac keyboard with the number key pad,
> this is a moot point; since, after all, one can use the numpad commander to
> do the very same thing. Now, if one does not have a built in number keypad
> on the keyboard itself, quick nav does provide a very physically convenient
> way to navigate with Voice Over so that one does not, (under most
> circumstances) need to use the control+option+right or left arrow keys. I
> do like it, but, as I say, for some strange reason, I drifted away from
> using it after the second week or so. You, however, may find yourself
> preferring it. It's a matter really of trying it out and seeing if you like
> it.
>
> Merry Christmas.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray!!!
>
> Now a Mac User!!!
>
> Phone:
> +1 (985) 360-3614
>
> E-mail:
> rforetjr at comcast dot net
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> Skype Name:
> barefootedray
>
> On Dec 23, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Stephanie wrote:
>
> What exactly is this?
> I can't wait to get my mac book pro tomorrow for Christmas.
> Steph
> At 09:24 AM 24/12/2009, you wrote:
>> You know Judy, it's funny you should mention quick nav. When I first got
> my Mac book Pro, I told myself that I'd almost never use the regular
> command+option combination for the VO+* key strokes; instead, I'd use only
> quick nav or else the Mac compatible number keypad. Guess what, though, I
> did start out using quick nav for maybe the first week or so; but now, I
> find, (perhaps ironically), that I almost never use quick nav anymore. I
> must admit quite frankly that I surprised myself when I discovered that I
> now usually use the regular VO keys. Why, I think maybe I know why. It has
> to do with web navigation. If I'm entering a password in a password field,
> I can't use quick nav to get quickly to the next field or button but must
> use the regular VO keys. As for the USB number keypad, That's another
> physical piece of equipment to lug around and so I just don't do it. When I
> have my Mac book Pro on my lap in my living room and I'm watching a DVD in
> 5.1 channel sound on my AV receiver, the last thing I want is to worry about
> my USB number key pad. I find myself drifting more and more away from quick
> nav; which, I must say, really is not what I expected. Still, it might be
> good to play with it just to keep in practice.
>>
>> Thanks for the reminder that it even exists.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray!!!
>>
>> Now a Mac User!!!
>>
>> Phone:
>> +1 (985) 360-3614
>>
>> E-mail:
>> rforetjr at comcast dot net
>>
>> Skype Name:
>> barefootedray
>>
>> On Dec 23, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Judy Wilkinson wrote:
>>
>> I asked the original question and was chagrined the answer was so easy, bt
> I want to add that I'm now doing many things with quick-nav such as opening
> docs, expanding the attachments toggle, etc. saves a keystroke or two.
>> Judy
>>
>> On Dec 23, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote:
>>
>>> Well, Nicole,
>>>
>>> You're skipping the first step. Before you press VO+space on a link,
> you need to interact with the text. To do so, press vo+shift+down arrow.
>>>
>>> HTH.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray!!!
>>>
>>> Now a Mac User!!!
>>>
>>> Phone:
>>> +1 (985) 360-3614
>>>
>>> E-mail:
>>> rforetjr at comcast dot net
>>>
>>> Skype Name:
>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>> On Dec 23, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Nicole Hutchins wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Group,
>>> I saw the message a few days ago about copying a link from mail, but
> when I did vo space, it didn't work for me. Am I missing something?
>>> Thanks, Nicole
>>>
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