I am not making aspersions one way or another. I am saying this podcast was out of line because apple has not demoed sl/vo. now, if you look at the sl/vo info, you will see "subject to change".
On Jun 21, 2009, at 5:08 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote: DavidIt is not violation of an NDA to reveal what has already been revealed. Apple has published the features of Snow Leopard, including Voiceover, and what those features will entail and how they will work. Hense this information has already been disclosed to the public via Apple themselves and also for this reason Apple will not pull a feature now they've promised it and have been able to implement it. You also do not know whether the person was or was not a paid member of ADC, which would allowed him to legally obtain these prereleases of 10.6. I for one do not support making such aspursions on another's character without proof, and you have none to say he had an illegal copy or violated an NDA. That's all I'm going to say here, and I think this particular thread/argument has gone on long enough. As for the initial question in this thread about typing in the keyboard roter, I'd like to know the answer to this as well. I use the link chooser's searching features extensively, and would be more than a little upset to have this functionality removed.
On Jun 21, 2009, at 16:53, David Poehlman wrote:
in any case, it may be moot when snow leopard comes out if apple decides not to include it so we are all done a disservice by this.On Jun 21, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:well. as far as i know, he must have got that from a torrant so wouldn't be on any nda if it was torranted.On Jun 21, 2009, at 2:13 PM, John Panarese wrote:Yes, this is the point. Basically, in the strictest of terms, what was done was illegal. Someone most likely broke an NDA or was party to it. Apple, from what I have heard and read, is not forgiving on this point. So, as informational as that might have been, it is not something to be glorified or praised.Take Care John D. Panarese Managing Director Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc. 9 Nolan Court Hauppauge, NY 11788 Tel/Fax, (631) 724-4479 Email, tvii@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Internet, http://www.tvi-web.comAUTHORIZED DISTRIBUTORS FOR PORTSET SYSTEMS LTD, COMPSOLUTIONS VA, PREMIER ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGIES, INDEX, PAPENMEIER, REPRO-TRONICS, DUXBURY, SEROTEK AND OTHER PRODUCTS FOR THE BLIND AND VISUALLY IMPAIREDAUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Jun 21, 2009, at 1:20 PM, David Poehlman wrote:it is not out yet. anyone who knows anything about it cannot discuss it. capish?On Jun 21, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:No, we don't need to ignore it. Just because it didn't come from Apple doesn't mean the information there is not relevant or useful.On Jun 21, 2009, at 06:02, David Poehlman wrote:we need to ignore that podcast. when further info is available publicly through appropriate chanels, we'll se it here I can guarantee that.On Jun 21, 2009, at 4:31 AM, Marty Rimpau wrote:Hi all, if the person who did the introduction to snow leopard happens to be on the list, I was wondering about the keyboard rotar in snow leopard. We know that vo u now includes the link chooser, the item chooser, web hot spots, and there might be one other thing, but the way the rotar was demonstrated in the podcast, the person navigated to the link chooser, and pressed enter to move through the links, and I'm wondering, if we can navigate to the item chooser, or the link chooser, and type the link or item we want, and have our choices narrowed down to what we have typed as it is now, because I would hate to lose the link chooser, which I use regularly to get to certain places on a web site. Thanks in advance, and if the person who did the podcast is not on the list, could somebody forward this question to them, and once again, thanks in advance.Click on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverThe major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair.--Douglas AdamsClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover
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