[macvoiceover] Re: nfb trashes voiceover:

  • From: Josh de Lioncourt <overlord@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:16:26 -0700


I'd agree with you if the information presented in the article was factually correct. It wasn't. His background, his willingness to learn a new OS, or his familiarity with Windows screen readers is all irrelevant. If you have false info in your article, you should be called out on it. That is what we've done on Screenless Switchers and other podcasts and venues. I've actually seen very little "whining" on this at all.

On Jun 17, 2009, at 7:42 AM, Tim Grady wrote:

Not saying this to you personally, but all of this is kind of silly. I don't know what the market share in the blind community of windows users is but I can say that it is high, so to see an article that isn't that favorable to Voiceover isn't surprising. I don't think that the NFB is "trashing voiceover", I think it was just an article by someone who uses windows most of the time and just like someone who never used a Windows screenreader before but had only used Voiceover, when having to write an article, their opinions of the screenreaders were schewed. You guys are much to sensitive.
On Jun 10, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Marty Rimpau wrote:

Hi all, it is obvious that the person who wrote the article hadn't explored the menus of mail, and wasn't aware of the items that could be checked in the view menu, but they kept insisting on using windows standards for everything, when mac and windows aren't the same thing, though I will say, I do wish there were a mode of the voice over tutorial for people coming from windows, so that the windows user would immediately be aware of the diferences, and put aside some of those concepts.
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From: David Poehlman
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:10:43 -0400



Begin forwarded message:

From: Anne Robertson <conseil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: June 10, 2009 3:50:14 AM EDT
To: Snow Leopard <seedvosnowleopard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: And a beta tester wrote this



Hello everyone,


I just read this article and noticed that it was written by someone on this list. I wouldn't mind if the observations were fair and reasonable, but they're not.


Who ever heard of anyone learning to use Windows with Jaws without training? Apple is being held to a completely different standard from any other hardware or software or screenReader provider.


Here's the link:
All;


While not surprising, This article certainly shows a good deal of what the nfb is all about here and this after they went around saying they were responsible for apple making ITunes and the IPod accessible.




http://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/Publications/bm/bm09/bm0906/ bm090606.htm






Marty


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