I am not sure, all I can say is what happens here and what others have told me about this on the envisionaries list. Most things work fine here too without monitor but know DVD player will not work without one. Safari has been reported to be quite sluggish without a monitor hooked up as well. I can't confirm this because I haven't played with safari enough yet. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: ashley To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 1:59 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: mac mini? ah... ok... sorry if i gave the wrong info, i just have a few friends that use mac mini's (latest ones) without monitors and they work just fine. i'm not sure why this is. perhaps it works on certain hardware? i don't have any problems without a monitor connected... ash On 9 Jan 2010, at 18:28, Rick Harmon wrote: Ashley, We've confirmed this on this list or the mac envisionaries list that just eh adapter alone doesn't work for the latest minis. There has to be a monitor hooked to it. TO confirm this here I used a mini dvi to vga adapter on the mini but no monitor plugged into the adapter. When inserting a video DVD in the mini I get the message no monitor detected. However when I attach the monitor to the adapter I then can play the DVD just fine. Also I was told that the mini dvi to video adapter no longer works on newest minies either due to the analog lines being removed from the mini dvi port on the minis. I'm certainly no expert on the mini as I've only had it for a short time but this is what I know for sure. Rick Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: ashley To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:20 AM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: mac mini? you don't need a monitor, just a display to vga adapter you can get in the apple store. ash On 9 Jan 2010, at 13:50, Josh wrote: Hi, Rick told me the dvi to video adapter no longer works on the newer mac minis, well it works but he said I need a monitor anyway for the newest latest mac minis because voiceover will be slow or sluggish? Josh Kennedy jkenn337@xxxxxxxxx my blog is at http://jkenn337.klangoblog.net (updated frequently). Tired of Microsoft Windows and paying thousands for screen-readers? try out NVDA, get a mac--, nvda--for Windows, or try out and switch to grml, Ubuntu, Vinux, or knoppix-adriane Linux desktops. Knoppix ubuntu and vinux-cli-max are the most accessible for beginners. also try vinux-gui and encourage those at www.cherrypal.com to use windows-xp and nvda knoppix-adriane Vinux-cli-max or grml so all blind people can have an accessible computer. personal website: www.ashleycox.co.uk personal website: www.ashleycox.co.uk