[macvoiceover] Re: iPhone dictation limit

  • From: Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 14:47:39 -0600

An interesting note from some Canadian court cases against the big mobile 
companies, companies, including Facebook, were found complicit in hiding 
information about extra charges generated by texting to social media sites. Not 
sure what bearing that has had going forward, but in those cases third parties 
were just fine running up the text charges of customers. I can't remember a 
hardware company taking a step like this in favour of customers without the 
reality of a law suit or a massive public outcry.

Apple is usually pretty good at telling its faithful followers why what they've 
done will make their lives better, wonder why they haven't in this case? Or 
maybe Steve Jobbes is just messing with us from beyond.

Ian

On 2013-05-15, at 7:48 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi David,Again,
> 
> This might be the case but, I don't think Apple is concerned one bit about 
> peoples texting charges.  I mean, why should they care about such a thing as 
> you mentioned below when in settings/messages you have the option to not have 
> your message sent as SMS?  So essentially, if you get some outrageous bill 
> because your iMessages were long, and were broken up into 5 texts, it was 
> your fault.
> 
> JMO.  
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
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> 
> On May 14, 2013, at 8:52 PM, David Chittenden <dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> you are correct, and when your lengthy iMessage is converted into multiple 
>> text messages because the other person is not currently on the network, you 
>> get nailed by the factors I just discussed. Come on people, this is not 
>> rocket science. Sighted people are switching to speaking their text messages 
>> rather than writing them. Siri is primarily for the sighted. It is highly 
>> likely that enough people have been nailed by additional message charges at 
>> $0.20 per additional message block that Apple has found it necessary to 
>> start warning people that their messages exceed the message length imposed 
>> by mobile phone providers.
>> 
>> If you want to send lengthy messages, open messages, select your target, and 
>> use the dictate button to the left of the space on the onscreen keyboard.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 15/05/2013, at 12:24, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> i message has no limit on charectors
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 14:38
>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: iPhone dictation limit
>>>> 
>>>> Text messages have a maximum limit of 140 characters per message.
>>>> Typically, if the message is longer than 140 characters, the phone
>>>> splits the message up into multiple messages when sending. I wonder if
>>>> Siri is now limiting text messages to the 140 character limit.
>>>> 
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 15/05/2013, at 9:27, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Gabe, have you ever had a message like my friend got? Any clue
>>>> what triggers it, like a time or character limit?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ian
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2013-05-14, at 3:15 PM, Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S
>>>> <theblindtech@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> But you can simply re-tap the dictate button and continue your
>>>> message such as this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gabe Vega
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>>> On May 14, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Tuscia-Falconer
>>>> <falconer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yeah dictation on my iMac is only 30 seconds
>>>>>>> I have just used it to write this reply
>>>>>>> If I take too long as I am trying to do now such as go for more
>>>> then 30 seconds and I am not using a watch I
>>>>>>> Get a beep and the message is concluded
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> TF
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 15/05/2013, at 8:27 AM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Doing some troubleshooting for a friend, of course it's a problem
>>>> I've never had so don't know right away what the answer is.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Using Siri to dictate a text message on a 4S, she is getting a
>>>> message that her message is too long, would she like to trim it down?
>>>> This comes before she tries to send the message, so it's not coming
>>>> from her mobile carrier.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anyone else experience this? Are there built in dictation
>>>> limitations?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kicker is, this situation only started a couple of days ago, and
>>>> she believes she hasn't changed her texting habits.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ian
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