[macvoiceover] Re: iPhone dictation limit

  • From: Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 16:12:46 -0600

Good points David. I wonder what percentange of Apple's voice 
recognition/translation is used for text messages, what for general Siri app 
commands, for dictation etc. Just curios, no actual value in knowing.

Cheers,

Ian

On 2013-05-14, at 4:00 PM, David Chittenden <dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I somewhat doubt that. If you use the dictation button rather than asking 
> Siri, you are only limited by the 30 second block. Dictation uses the same 
> translation servers that Siri uses. It is both on the iOS device and on the 
> Mac. I use dictation on my Mac to write several pages of text per day. There 
> is no limit and no request for limiting my usage of dictation.
> 
> When sighted people write text messages, they can see how long the message is 
> becoming. When they speak the message, they cannot see how long it is. The 
> $0.20 charge per 140 character block can be a very strong motivator to keep 
> one's message brief.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 15/05/2013, at 9:53, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> My guess is that there is also the Starbucks napkin philosophy at work here. 
>> At Starbucks they remind you to think of the environment before taking extra 
>> napkins. What they also mean but aren't saying out loud is, please think 
>> twice before using a lot of what we're giving away for free. Apple is giving 
>> away a lot of processor power with Siri use, makes sense that they would 
>> nudge us towards a habit of not using so much of it.
>> 
>> Ian
>> 
>> 
>> On 2013-05-14, at 3:47 PM, David Chittenden <dchittenden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> According to an article that was forwarded to another list, Apple is 
>>> actively encouraging people to be concise in their text messages. Again, 
>>> this makes sense when considering that text messages are actually limited 
>>> to 140 characters. For people who pay $.20 per message longer messages will 
>>> get expensive quite rapidly.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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>>> 
>>> On 15/05/2013, at 9:37, Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S <theblindtech@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Sometimes it's a network or a server issue. Maybe even an iPhone issue, 
>>>> where you would reboot the phone and things to get back to normal. If not 
>>>> it's usually the cell phone network, or maybe even Apple servers. It's 
>>>> very random and no one has a real answer
>>>> 
>>>> Gabe Vega 
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>>>> On May 14, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Gabe, have you ever had a message like my friend got? Any clue 
>>>>> what triggers it, like a time or character limit?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ian
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2013-05-14, at 3:15 PM, Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S 
>>>>> <theblindtech@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> But you can simply re-tap the dictate button and continue your message 
>>>>>> such as this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gabe Vega 
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>>>>>> On May 14, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Tuscia-Falconer <falconer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yeah dictation on my iMac is only 30 seconds
>>>>>>> I have just used it to write this reply
>>>>>>> If I take too long as I am trying to do now such as go for more then 30 
>>>>>>> seconds and I am not using a watch I
>>>>>>> Get a beep and the message is concluded
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> TF
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 15/05/2013, at 8:27 AM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Doing some troubleshooting for a friend, of course it's a problem I've 
>>>>>>> never had so don't know right away what the answer is. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Using Siri to dictate a text message on a 4S, she is getting a message 
>>>>>>> that her message is too long, would she like to trim it down? This 
>>>>>>> comes before she tries to send the message, so it's not coming from her 
>>>>>>> mobile carrier.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anyone else experience this? Are there built in dictation limitations?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kicker is, this situation only started a couple of days ago, and she 
>>>>>>> believes she hasn't changed her texting habits.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ian
>>>>>>> 
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