2 things. 1. I did not upgrade. and 2. Some times it is good not to understand. We are Braille Bible printers, http://biblesfortheblind.org Keith Reedy keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx On Sep 24, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Ignasi Cambra <ic4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I honestly don't understand this whole drama… It's the same thing every year… > A new version of iOS comes out and there are some bugs for the first few > weeks… That is not only an accessibility related thing… It happens to > everybody else! If you want everything to be perfect all the time with every > upgrade then just don't use computers at all! I really hate this tendency in > the blind community to just complain about everything for no reason. There is > a reason why big companies usually take a few months before upgrading their > systems to a new OS. They use computers for their business, and they need to > make sure everything is working properly before upgrading. If your computer > and your phone are so important in your work then don't upgrade if you get so > annoyed every time you have to deal with a bug you didn't know about. Some > releases are better than others… This happens with Apple, Microsoft and > basically every company that makes software. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 24, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Keith Reedy <wa9dro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Ian, >> >> The lesson I am learning here is that my computer and my phone are so >> tightly integrated in to my day job and I have come to depend on them. I am >> now exploring ways to decouple them from my work which does not mean doing >> things differently but doing some things the way I use to before I became so >> heavily dependent on Apple. I am slowly learning that you can't really >> depend on any company to always do the right thing and thats to bad. >> We print the Bible in Braille, >> http://biblesfortheblind.org >> Keith Reedy >> God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him. J Hudson Taylor. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> I sympathize Keith, it seemed like my life was getting easier because of my >>> iPhone, and that with each update/upgrade things got better, but this one >>> has knocked me back on my heels. It wasn’t a matter of getting used to >>> soemthing different, it was that the ability of the machine to work with >>> Voiceover took a big jump backwards into the world of work-arounds and >>> putting up with annoyances that weren’t there 5 days ago. I’m feeling more >>> like I did in the Windows world, where each update meant something >>> important to me would be broken. With Mac and iPhone I looked forward to >>> updates and upgrades because it meant things would work better. This one >>> smacked me a little. >>> >>> Ian >>> >>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> Oh Keith That is so sad! I am still having so much fun! I am waiting for >>>> my iphone 6 plus to show up any minute! I would hate to see you quit! But >>>> I do sympathize! Maybe you just need some time and space! >>>> -- >>>> Cheryl >>>> >>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >>>> thrown in the trash! >>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >>>> His joy for my despairing tears! >>>> And now, every day: >>>> "This I call to mind, >>>> and therefore I have hope: >>>> The steadfast love of the Lord >>>> never ceases; >>>> his mercies never come to an end; >>>> they are new every morning; >>>> great is your faithfulness." >>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Cheryl, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the food for thought. Really I have enough problems with out >>>>> upgrading my phone or my computer. I am going to use my iPhone 5 until >>>>> it dies and then start using pay phones again if I can find one and I am >>>>> going to use my computer until it dies and dig out the old slate and >>>>> stylus. Some how this does not seem like fun any more. >>>>> We are Braille Bible printers, >>>>> http://biblesfortheblind.org >>>>> Keith Reedy >>>>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 11:51 AM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess that would depend on what problems? If the iOS has a problem >>>>>> itself, that is going to be true on whatever device the iOS is loaded. >>>>>> If problems are due to a slower processor or something other than the >>>>>> iOS specifically, then you may not have the same problems. For instance, >>>>>> there are things that just can't be done on a 4S with iOS8 and having >>>>>> say a 5S would eliminate these problems. Alex doesn't work on iOS8 >>>>>> unless you have at least a 5S because of the 64-bit processor. But >>>>>> problems directly related to a bug in the iOS will show up, I would >>>>>> think, across phone versions and models. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cheryl >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >>>>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >>>>>> thrown in the trash! >>>>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >>>>>> His joy for my despairing tears! >>>>>> And now, every day: >>>>>> "This I call to mind, >>>>>> and therefore I have hope: >>>>>> The steadfast love of the Lord >>>>>> never ceases; >>>>>> his mercies never come to an end; >>>>>> they are new every morning; >>>>>> great is your faithfulness." >>>>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 10:24 AM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good morning every one, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does any one have an iPhone 6, if so do the same problems exist? >>>>>>> We are Braille Bible printers, >>>>>>> http://biblesfortheblind.org >>>>>>> Keith Reedy >>>>>>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>> >>>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>> >>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>> >>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>>> >>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>> >>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >