Ian, The lesson I am learning here is that my computer and my phone are so tightly integrated in to my day job and I have come to depend on them. I am now exploring ways to decouple them from my work which does not mean doing things differently but doing some things the way I use to before I became so heavily dependent on Apple. I am slowly learning that you can't really depend on any company to always do the right thing and thats to bad. We print the Bible in Braille, http://biblesfortheblind.org Keith Reedy God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him. J Hudson Taylor. On Sep 23, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I sympathize Keith, it seemed like my life was getting easier because of my > iPhone, and that with each update/upgrade things got better, but this one has > knocked me back on my heels. It wasn’t a matter of getting used to soemthing > different, it was that the ability of the machine to work with Voiceover took > a big jump backwards into the world of work-arounds and putting up with > annoyances that weren’t there 5 days ago. I’m feeling more like I did in the > Windows world, where each update meant something important to me would be > broken. With Mac and iPhone I looked forward to updates and upgrades because > it meant things would work better. This one smacked me a little. > > Ian > > On Sep 23, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Oh Keith That is so sad! I am still having so much fun! I am waiting for my >> iphone 6 plus to show up any minute! I would hate to see you quit! But I do >> sympathize! Maybe you just need some time and space! >> -- >> Cheryl >> >> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >> thrown in the trash! >> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >> His joy for my despairing tears! >> And now, every day: >> "This I call to mind, >> and therefore I have hope: >> The steadfast love of the Lord >> never ceases; >> his mercies never come to an end; >> they are new every morning; >> great is your faithfulness." >> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 23, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Cheryl, >>> >>> Thanks for the food for thought. Really I have enough problems with out >>> upgrading my phone or my computer. I am going to use my iPhone 5 until it >>> dies and then start using pay phones again if I can find one and I am going >>> to use my computer until it dies and dig out the old slate and stylus. >>> Some how this does not seem like fun any more. >>> We are Braille Bible printers, >>> http://biblesfortheblind.org >>> Keith Reedy >>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 11:51 AM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> I guess that would depend on what problems? If the iOS has a problem >>>> itself, that is going to be true on whatever device the iOS is loaded. If >>>> problems are due to a slower processor or something other than the iOS >>>> specifically, then you may not have the same problems. For instance, there >>>> are things that just can't be done on a 4S with iOS8 and having say a 5S >>>> would eliminate these problems. Alex doesn't work on iOS8 unless you have >>>> at least a 5S because of the 64-bit processor. But problems directly >>>> related to a bug in the iOS will show up, I would think, across phone >>>> versions and models. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheryl >>>> >>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >>>> thrown in the trash! >>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >>>> His joy for my despairing tears! >>>> And now, every day: >>>> "This I call to mind, >>>> and therefore I have hope: >>>> The steadfast love of the Lord >>>> never ceases; >>>> his mercies never come to an end; >>>> they are new every morning; >>>> great is your faithfulness." >>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 10:24 AM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Good morning every one, >>>>> >>>>> Does any one have an iPhone 6, if so do the same problems exist? >>>>> We are Braille Bible printers, >>>>> http://biblesfortheblind.org >>>>> Keith Reedy >>>>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>> >>>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>> >>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>> >>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>> >>> >>>> >>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>> >>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >> >>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> > >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >