well, I don't see the need for two laptops. if apple comes out with a netbook great! then I'll buy one, but I think a mac mini would be fine for me. Josh Join me on klango at www.klango.net visit and sign my petition at: http://www.petitiononline.com/coda1234/petition.html and visit my blog at: http://jkenn337.klango.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Sara To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 6:46 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: getting a mac Yes windows xp can be run on a Mac using either BootCamp or a program called VMWare Fusion. That is off-topic here though unless it has to do with VoiceOver reading the configuration stuff. VoiceOver will not talk in the Windows stuff. I did not realize the Mac mini would run without a monitor. If you don't need to use it on batteries then the mini sounds like the Mac for you. Your question about whether things are more accessible would get way too political and personal preference oriented for this list, but I have no trouble starting up my Mac, performing updates, or using most built-in programs. I can even reformat my hard drive if I am so inclined, and I've heard that installing, yes I said installing, the Mac OS from scratch! is accessible. It's not like Windows where you need sighted help for the installation of Windows. As for individual programs, many work well, lots work ok, and some don't work; just the same as Windows programs. Contacting developers to ask them to improve the accessibility of their software also happens. Hope that helps. Sara > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >