just watch out for the icing between your toes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ginny" <ginnyo@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:46 AM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: garage band updates Yep, ibook it was. My brain is disappearing. Well, I'm going to see if I can find some of those forums. Garage Band is just so compact--so much more user-friendly than the PC stuff when you want to do simple things. I just wish we could will it to be accessible. <grin> But one day... In the meantime, I have a CakeWalk manual to study yet today. <smile> -----Original Message----- From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:34 AM To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: garage band updates Hi Ginny, you either had an IBook or a powerbbook. If we join the right apple forums, we might be able to find those who use garage band and maybe we'll even be able to find folk who use garage band with vo but as I remember it, garage band was not nearly accessible with vo when i played with it a couple of years ago. Now, I also remember a demo that I did not attend here in town showing the "accessibility" of garage band, but the fess up was that it did not center around vo. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ginny" <ginnyo@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: garage band updates So here's my question. When I purchased my first Mac--a Mac laptop before the Macbook--what was that one called again?--anyhow, I purchased it in Chicago at an Apple store where there were several "geniuses" who knew VO really well. One, in fact, was going to be teaching a seminar on using VO with GB the very next week. But since I didn't live in Chicago, I wasn't going to be there. Now how in the world can we track down the sighted Mac geeks who actually know aps like GB and understand VO enough to figure out some of these things we're baffled by? I just believe they have to be out there somewhere, but they don't seem to work for AppleCare. <grin> I'm still amazed that when I call AppleCare, most of their "tech support" peeps know nothing about VO--not even what it is. I'm going to make it my mission to track down a genius who is really a genius. <grin> -----Original Message----- From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:11 AM To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: garage band updates Ah, I have seen this menu of which you speak. the tip I saw was on how to move the windows so that they are adjacent. I find it tedious to do this mouse stuff but will give it a shot when things are jumping a bit less for me. As far as sighted assistance, I've had some when I was working with fb, but it wasn't much help because they could not tell what I was doing with vo for some reason. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ginny" <ginnyo@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:55 AM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: garage band updates Ah yes...that is what I feared...the windows aren't adjacent and therefore the item cannot be dragged and dropped by those without the use of their eyes. Grrr. The drum loops aren't accessible, but the drum kits are--when you select them from the instrument group there next to the track payne with the arrows. The quantizing feature is usually the very last thing in the effects section, as far as I can tell. I believe there's a checkbox for tempo, then a menu with note values from which you select the one that you'd like for your track to be quantized to, and then a percent slider bar where you select how much you want the track quantized. You can also select reverb, compression type, and E Q in the preceeding menus in the same way. It works pretty well. I'm happy to write a guide, but I want to get a sighted assistant to watch what I'm doing first so that I don't tell you anything incorrect as far as what's on the screen. I can tell you how to get to the various options, but I'm just not sure exactly what's going on in the "big picture." Make sense? As soon as I can find a pair of eyes that know how to look at a Mac, I'll get the guide up and going. <grin> Unless someone else beats me to it. <smile> -----Original Message----- From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:18 AM To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: garage band updates Hi Ginny, I have found this as well but what does vo call quantize? can you do anything with any of the other effects than drumkits or am I way off base? As I understand it and I have not read the tutorial but followed the drag and drop thread, you need to get the two windows adjacent to one another so that you can carry something from one to annother with no obstruction. it is the obstruction that kills. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ginny" <ginnyo@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 11:29 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] garage band updates OK, I'm not ready to do a guide yet, because this might prove to be info which no one cares about-or which everyone else already knows. <grin> I am often the last to figure out things. I have concluded that from within a track, one can click "editor" then right arrow over to "effects" and then click the arrow button. This should allow many effects to pop up including the ability to quantize" your track-though it is not called quantize. It's also possible to add certain amp simulations, EWS, compressors, reverbs, filters, and distortion from this same spot. I am happy to go into further detail with anyone who is interested in this bit, though, like I say, I might be the last to figure it out. <grin> The great news is that we can create our own loops from the drum kits because we can quantize. Now, here's something I'd like to ask any of you who are willing to have an adventure. I spent some time working through the steps of VaShaun's wonderful tutorial on dragging and dropping. And when I contacted AppleCare to ask the GB tech support about this, she said that we were able to drag and drop the loops from the finder into garage band projects. I couldn't do it, but I thought maybe one of you wonderfully smart folks might try this. Go to finder, library, audio, apple loops, apple, apple loops for garage band. See if you can paste any of those loops to into a garage band project. 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