[macvoiceover] Re: foreign languages was re:voiceover in snow leopard prepare to learn:
- From: Blake Sinnett <frequency660@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:01:08 -0500
It is not ScanSoft. Nuance acquired ScanSoft back around 2005 or so.
> From: ckadlik1@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: foreign languages was re:voiceover in snow
> leopard prepare to learn:
> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:55:28 -0400
>
> it's scansoft
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:32 PM
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: foreign languages was re:voiceover in snow
> leopard prepare to learn:
>
>
> no, samantha is not eloquence thank the stars or whatever. It sounds
> quite good on the IPhone if that in fact is what it is but I think it
> is a different voice I just don't know which one.
>
> On Jun 10, 2009, at 7:13 PM, Sara wrote:
>
> Is that anywhere near Eloquence? If apple gets Eloquence voices I will
> throw out Windows forever and ever and ever and ever! Eloquence is the
> only voice I can understand with any certainty because I've been
> listening to it since the 90s.
> Sara
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Blake Sinnett
> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:46 PM
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: foreign languages was re:voiceover in snow
> leopard prepare to learn:
>
> Hi folks. Allow me to speculate here:
>
> The voice on the iPhone is Samantha, a Nuance US english voice. What
> if Apple was able to license Nuance voices for the Mac for use with
> VoiceOver?
>
> This would potentially mean that Tom, Jennifer, Jill, Daniel, Lee,
> Karen ETC would possibly be other voice options. Wouldn't that be
> fantastic?
>
> If that doesn't happen, then perhaps one Nuance voice from each
> language would be included. This would still be pretty cool.
>
> Thanks,
> Blake
>
> > From: koumanova_rostislava@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: foreign languages was re:voiceover in
> snow leopard prepare to learn:
> > Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:38:58 +0200
> >
> > i think no , look here ...
> > after the paragraph which say ... voice over speaks your language !
> > rk
> >
> > Il giorno 10/giu/09, alle ore 23:25, Marie Howarth ha scritto:
> >
> > > I think snow leopard is going to have that support.
> > >
> > > On Jun 10, 2009, at 10:02 PM, Rossy wrote:
> > >
> > >> hi can somebody tell me if there are other languages than alex.
> > >> seems that mac supports 8 languages but if i want it to speak in
> > >> other languages i have to buy from third parties ????
> > >> i don't mind but i don't understand how come i get it on iphone
> and
> > >> not on macbook ???
> > >> can somebody tell me something more ....
> > >> rossy
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Il giorno 10/giu/09, alle ore 17:48, Brandon Misch ha scritto:
> > >>
> > >>> well, considerng that the quick start guide is in 18 languages,
> > >>> the voices will probably be too.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Jun 10, 2009, at 11:39 AM, chantel cuddemi wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I hope so, too. That will be way cool!!!!
> > >>>> On Jun 10, 2009, at 1:11 AM, Brandon Misch wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> i just hope they put all the voices that the i phone and ipod
> > >>>>> shuffle use in there.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> They won't implement them, because I don't even know if
> there's
> > >>>>>> pc's out there that support multi touch. I mean there might be
> > >>>>>> some, but it's not the majority.
> > >>>>>> On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:34 PM, Orin wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Man. For all this I only have to pay $29? Wow, that's
> > >>>>>>> something my parents could actually afford. I could just see
> > >>>>>>> Freedom Scientific trying to implement gestures into jaws
> > >>>>>>> because they weren't the first screen reader to have them and
> > >>>>>>> they might be quite pissed off about that.
> > >>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:14 PM, chantel cuddemi wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I can't wait to buy it either.
> > >>>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I am very excited about this. and cannot wait until
> > >>>>>>>>> September to purchase Snow Leopard.
> > >>>>>>>>> Good on Apple!
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:26 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> All;
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I know it's not coming till September and someof you have
> > >>>>>>>>>> or will read apple.com/accessibility and the info is
> > >>>>>>>>>> "subject to change". Here below though is some info that
> > >>>>>>>>>> may give some a jump start on what is coming and how it
> > >>>>>>>>>> will work. I'll be posting more info when I find it
> > >>>>>>>>>> available and relay it from personal experience and
> > >>>>>>>>>> encourage others to do the same.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> ---begin guide:---
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Every Mac comes standard with a wide range of assistive
> > >>>>>>>>>> technologies that help people with disabilities experience
> > >>>>>>>>>> what the Mac has to offer. We call this Universal Access,
> > >>>>>>>>>> and it includes many features you won’t find in other
> > >>>>>>>>>> operating systems at any price. In Mac OS X, they’re built
> > >>>>>>>>>> right in. And now, the innovations in Snow Leopard advance
> > >>>>>>>>>> accessibility even further.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> VoiceOver screen-reading built in.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Mac OS X is the first operating system to include as a
> > >>>>>>>>>> standard feature an advanced screen-reading technology,
> > >>>>>>>>>> which is called VoiceOver. Much more than simply a text-
> to-
> > >>>>>>>>>> speech tool, VoiceOver makes it possible for those who are
> > >>>>>>>>>> blind or have low vision to control their computer. It
> > >>>>>>>>>> features a unique voice — based on speech technology
> > >>>>>>>>>> invented by Apple — that delivers amazing intelligibility
> > >>>>>>>>>> and natural intonation even at speaking rates up to 700
> > >>>>>>>>>> words per minute. And with Snow Leopard, VoiceOver gets
> > >>>>>>>>>> more powerful and easier to use.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Now the trackpad is the screen.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> VoiceOver in Mac OS X Snow Leopard offers a breakthrough
> > >>>>>>>>>> new capability: You can control your computer using
> > >>>>>>>>>> gestures on a Multi-Touch trackpad even if you can’t see
> > >>>>>>>>>> the screen. The trackpad surface on your Mac notebook
> > >>>>>>>>>> represents the active window on your computer, so you can
> > >>>>>>>>>> touch to hear the item under your finger, drag to hear
> > >>>>>>>>>> items continuously as you move your finger, and flick with
> > >>>>>>>>>> one finger to move to the next or previous item. You’ll
> > >>>>>>>>>> hear how items are arranged on the screen, and you can
> jump
> > >>>>>>>>>> directly to an item just by touching the corresponding
> > >>>>>>>>>> location on the trackpad. For example, you can drag your
> > >>>>>>>>>> finger around the trackpad to learn how items are arranged
> > >>>>>>>>>> in a web page, a spreadsheet, a presentation, or any
> > >>>>>>>>>> document with text. The more you touch, the more
> > >>>>>>>>>> information you gather.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> More braille support,
> > >>>>>>>>>> greater collaboration.
> > >>>>>>>>>> The Mac is the only computer that supports braille
> displays
> > >>>>>>>>>> right out of the box. Snow Leopard broadens this built-in
> > >>>>>>>>>> support by including the latest drivers for over 40
> models,
> > >>>>>>>>>> including wireless Bluetooth displays. Just connect one
> and
> > >>>>>>>>>> start using it — no additional software installation
> > >>>>>>>>>> necessary.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Snow Leopard also introduces a new feature, called braille
> > >>>>>>>>>> mirroring, that enables multiple USB braille displays to
> be
> > >>>>>>>>>> connected to one computer simultaneously. It’s perfect for
> > >>>>>>>>>> classroom settings, where teachers can lead all of their
> > >>>>>>>>>> students through the same lesson at the same time, even if
> > >>>>>>>>>> the students are using different display models.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> World-class web browsing.
> > >>>>>>>>>> VoiceOver in Snow Leopard offers new capabilities that
> make
> > >>>>>>>>>> web browsing easier, faster, and more enjoyable. VoiceOver
> > >>>>>>>>>> has been updated to take full advantage of powerful
> > >>>>>>>>>> multicore processors, so it can scan and analyze large,
> > >>>>>>>>>> complex web pages quickly and allow you to enter commands
> > >>>>>>>>>> right away.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> VoiceOver will begin reading an entire web page
> > >>>>>>>>>> automatically after it loads, and you can use key commands
> > >>>>>>>>>> or gestures to control VoiceOver as it’s talking. To help
> > >>>>>>>>>> you more quickly size up web pages you haven’t visited
> > >>>>>>>>>> before, VoiceOver can provide a customizable web page
> > >>>>>>>>>> summary, including the title, number of tables, headers,
> > >>>>>>>>>> links, form elements, and more.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Snow Leopard fully supports HTML web tables without the
> > >>>>>>>>>> need for a forms or table mode. You navigate tables using
> > >>>>>>>>>> the same commands you already know. You can hear the
> > >>>>>>>>>> contents of a table, including the column title and column
> > >>>>>>>>>> and row number, by dragging your finger across the
> trackpad
> > >>>>>>>>>> or using simple keystrokes.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> The rotor.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Instead of forcing you to memorize keyboard shortcuts to
> > >>>>>>>>>> navigate around the screen, VoiceOver offers a unique
> > >>>>>>>>>> virtual control called a rotor. When you turn it — by
> > >>>>>>>>>> rotating two fingers on the trackpad as if you were
> turning
> > >>>>>>>>>> a dial — VoiceOver moves through text based on a setting
> > >>>>>>>>>> you choose. For example, after setting the rotor to “Word”
> > >>>>>>>>>> or “Character,” each time you flick, VoiceOver moves
> > >>>>>>>>>> through the text one word at a time or one character at a
> > >>>>>>>>>> time — perfect when you’re proofreading or editing text.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> You can also use the rotor to navigate web pages. When
> > >>>>>>>>>> you’re on a web page, the rotor contains the names of
> > >>>>>>>>>> common items, such as headers, links, tables, images, and
> > >>>>>>>>>> more. You select a setting, then flick up or down to move
> > >>>>>>>>>> to the previous or next occurrence of that item on the
> > >>>>>>>>>> page, skipping over items in between.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Faster keyboard navigation.
> > >>>>>>>>>> A new feature called Quick Nav uses arrow key combinations
> > >>>>>>>>>> to move the VoiceOver cursor so you can control the
> > >>>>>>>>>> computer using just one hand without the need for modifer
> > >>>>>>>>>> keys. For example, you can move up, down, left, and right
> > >>>>>>>>>> by pressing the arrow keys individually, or press the up
> > >>>>>>>>>> and down arrows together to press a button or click a web
> > >>>>>>>>>> link. Other combinations let you adjust the rotor and move
> > >>>>>>>>>> the VoiceOver cursor according to the setting. With Quick
> > >>>>>>>>>> Nav, you’ll be navigating and reading documents and web
> > >>>>>>>>>> pages in no time.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Find information fast with auto web spots.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Many web pages are filled with complex design elements or
> > >>>>>>>>>> lack useful HTML tags, making them difficult to convey
> > >>>>>>>>>> through a screen reader. So Apple invented new
> technologies
> > >>>>>>>>>> to comprehend and interpret the visual design of web
> pages,
> > >>>>>>>>>> then use the information to assign virtual tags called
> > >>>>>>>>>> “auto web spots” to mark important locations on the page.
> > >>>>>>>>>> If you’re on a newspaper website, for example, there might
> > >>>>>>>>>> be an auto web spot for each lead story, another for a box
> > >>>>>>>>>> containing weather or sports scores, and so on. You can
> > >>>>>>>>>> jump from web spot to web spot with a keystroke or the
> > >>>>>>>>>> flick of a finger. And if there’s a particular feature
> on a
> > >>>>>>>>>> site you visit often, you can assign a “sweet spot” on
> that
> > >>>>>>>>>> page so that VoiceOver will go there first when the page
> > >>>>>>>>>> opens.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Create custom labels.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Sometimes items in applications are not well labeled, so
> > >>>>>>>>>> VoiceOver can describe them only with vague terms like
> > >>>>>>>>>> “blank,” “empty,” or “button.” If you know what the item
> is
> > >>>>>>>>>> or have sighted assistance, you can assign a custom label.
> > >>>>>>>>>> The next time you visit the item, VoiceOver will describe
> > >>>>>>>>>> it using your label. You can add as many labels as you
> like
> > >>>>>>>>>> and export your labels to a file that can be shared with
> > >>>>>>>>>> other VoiceOver users.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> More customization options.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Now you have even more ways to customize VoiceOver. You
> can
> > >>>>>>>>>> change the way VoiceOver speaks punctuation, identifies
> > >>>>>>>>>> changes in text attributes, announces links, and more.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Choose one of three standard verbosity levels — high,
> > >>>>>>>>>> medium, and low — or customize them by adjusting 30
> > >>>>>>>>>> separate settings. You can also change the order in which
> > >>>>>>>>>> descriptions are spoken and how much description you hear.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Snow Leopard also introduces VoiceOver Commanders, a new
> > >>>>>>>>>> category in VoiceOver Utility that lets you assign keys
> and
> > >>>>>>>>>> gestures to open an application, utility, or file; run an
> > >>>>>>>>>> AppleScript or Automator workflow; or perform a VoiceOver
> > >>>>>>>>>> command. Commanders can help thosewith physical and
> > >>>>>>>>>> learning disabilities by simplifying complex multikey
> > >>>>>>>>>> shortcuts and making commands easier to reach and enter.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Choose the Numpad Commander, Keyboard Commander, or
> > >>>>>>>>>> Trackpad Commander and begin customizing VoiceOver to suit
> > >>>>>>>>>> the way you work.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Every Mac includes a built-in VoiceOver tutorial called
> > >>>>>>>>>> Quick Start. It’s the fastest way to learn VoiceOver. Your
> > >>>>>>>>>> Mac starts talking soon after you turn it on and teaches
> > >>>>>>>>>> you how to begin the Quick Start tutorial. If someone sets
> > >>>>>>>>>> up your computer for you, you’ll get an invitation to open
> > >>>>>>>>>> Quick Start the first time you activate VoiceOver. Quick
> > >>>>>>>>>> Start teaches you the keys on the keyboard, basic
> VoiceOver
> > >>>>>>>>>> commands, and gestures, and it provides an environment
> > >>>>>>>>>> where you can learn at your own pace and practice your
> > >>>>>>>>>> skills. It’s localized in 18 languages, including nine new
> > >>>>>>>>>> ones, so when you add voices to your Mac (sold
> separately),
> > >>>>>>>>>> you can hear Quick Start in your native language.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> All features of Snow Leopard are subject to change.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
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