[macvoiceover] Re: braille printing and braille tables

  • From: Lewis Brock <lewisjbrock@xxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 21:34:25 +0100

ah sorry lol you can get specially made 25 pin din to USB convertors and 25 pin direct parallel to USB.


just search around

lew


On 2 Apr 2008, at 21:30, Greg Kearney wrote:

No there is no serial ports on Macs that's why you will need a USB to Serial converter the order of things is like this:

Macintosh

USB to Serial Converter plugged into a USB port on the Mac

9 pin female to 25 pin male null modem cable
(assuming the serial connector on the embosser is a 25 pin female which is the most common.)

OR

9 pin female to 25 pin male modem cable with a null modem adapter at one end.

Plug one end of the cable into the embosser, the other into the USB to Serial adapter and the adapter into the Mac.

Greg Kearney
535 S. Jackson St.
Casper, Wyoming 82601
307-224-4022
gkearney@xxxxxxxxx

On Apr 2, 2008, at 2:07 PM, William Windels wrote:
ok, so you mean, on a mac(mini) you have a serial port with 9/25 dots)?
and then , I should connect my printer to the serial port of my
mac(mini) with a null-modem cabel?
best regards,
William
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 01:43:15PM -0600, Greg Kearney wrote:
Any kind of braille embosser that has a serial port should work. You
will need a USB to Serial converter such as a keyspan. I use a older
Juliet Brailler. I have also tested an old Romeo 40 embosser and an
index embosser. The key is in having a serial port on the embosser. in therory you could also use bluetooth to do this as well and Parallel to
Bluetooth adapters do exist.


Greg Kearney
535 S. Jackson St.
Casper, Wyoming 82601
307-224-4022
gkearney@xxxxxxxxx

On Apr 2, 2008, at 1:34 PM, William Windels wrote:
ok, but which kind of braille printer should I use with Louis is usb
is
not supported with Louis and there is no parralell port on the mac.
best regards,
William Windels

On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 01:09:55PM -0600, Greg Kearney wrote:
Louis at this time does not support USB.

Greg Kearney
535 S. Jackson St.
Casper, Wyoming 82601
307-224-4022
gkearney@xxxxxxxxx

On Apr 2, 2008, at 1:07 PM, William Windels wrote:
ok, no problem.
so, I should buy a new one with usb-connection?

and what about driver , suported type of printer, braille
translation,
paper size...

Can I do this with Louis?
best regares,
William
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 02:49:36PM -0400, David Poehlman wrote:
sorry, I forgot about that.  I know of no way to go parallel to
usb.

----- Original Message -----
From: "William Windels" <william.windels@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:35 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: braille printing and braille tables


Hello,
I hope we understand each other well.
I mean, my braille printer is a parallel printer , at the moment
connected
on my parallel port of me linux pc /dev/lpt0.



Anyway, I have a usb-to-serial convertor myself.
but, I think, this shouldn't work because:
1 side of the cable has a usb-connection to put in my pc, this is
ok.
The other part of the cable has 25 dots.

So, my printercable has also 25 dots to put in the pc, so this
doesn't
work I think.
Is this not what you mean with a serial convertor?

But, when the printer is properly connected, I should need a
driver,
a
way to format my papersize, a way to chose the
brailletranslator.....

Or perhaps, the settings of the embosser will be used?

best regards
William Windels



On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 11:41:13AM -0600, Greg Kearney wrote:
A keysapn USB to serial adapter like this:
http://www.keyspan.com/products/usa19hs/

It is needed to connect a Mac to a serial device. Your index
Everest
should work fine as it has a serial interface. You will need a
null-
modem cable or adapter and perhaps various kinds of gender changer
adapters depending on the connections on the embosser and the
cables.

Greg Kearney
535 S. Jackson St.
Casper, Wyoming 82601
307-224-4022
gkearney@xxxxxxxxx

On Apr 2, 2008, at 11:35 AM, William Windels wrote:
Hello,
thanx for your answer,

I don't understand exactly what you mean with keyspan.
I am speaking about the hardware, I mean, which type of braile
printer
should I buy tu use onder mac with Louis?

my old one is a index everest.

best regards,
William Windels

On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 09:55:54AM -0600, Greg Kearney wrote:
I have quite a bit of background embossing braille on a Mac. I
am the
coauthor of Louis the free open-source braille translator
for Mac.
http://w3.wmcnet.org/braille/louis/

You will want an embosser with a serial port as well as a USB to
serial
adapter, I suggest the Keyspan adapter. It may also be
possible to
use a
Parallel to Bluetooth adapter but I have not personally tried
it. At
this
point Louis does not support USB embossers.

Louis will translate text, Word, xml, html and a wide range of
documents. It supports many different braille codes in many
languages.
You can write you own translation tables for Louis if you wish.


Greg Kearney
535 S. Jackson St.
Casper, Wyoming 82601
307-224-4022
gkearney@xxxxxxxxx

On Apr 2, 2008, at 9:46 AM, William Windels wrote:
Hello again,

Is here someone who hava experiences with printing in
braile on a
mac?
I don't know if it's possible but perhaps, it should be
possible
with
some types of braille printers.
I can have a new one so, if I take the right one, this will
be nice.

and also about braille tables:
I asked here before but is het somebody who knows about other
brailletables then the Us-table?
Normally I use the dutch one.
Is this kind of brailletable also available or can I adapt
the us-
table?

thanx in advance
best regards,
Willima Windels

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