[macvoiceover] Re: aiphone, really tired of text edirting issues!

  • From: "Marco" <news@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:29:44 -0600

I don't have a problem with the text editing issues other then that it is a
little slower then a physical qwerty but I can tolerate it for short
messages and for entering passwords.  A big mistake I was making earlier on
was that when you flick left and right to get to the desired editing field,
you need to double tap it to make sure that the cursor focus is on that
editing box otherwise what you type will go into places where you don't want
it too.  I found also that I can go so much faster by just double tapping a
letter with the one finger.  It is also important to move one's fingers
slowly over the virtual qwerty as you might accidentally add a character
because the voiceover engine might read your quick motion on the keyboard as
a double tap which has happened to me several times.

Marco
Alberta Canada


-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman
Sent: July 8, 2009 11:24 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: aiphone, really tired of text edirting issues!

donna donna;

I know just how you feel, but I have found often to my chagrin that  
Josh is never or almost never rong.  I agree I have not been able to  
lick the text thing either but it must be us.

On another note, do you have to use the phone to register on the app  
store?
On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Josh, I'm sorry, but you're just wrong.   I've been doing this since 8  
this morning.  I can't tell you how many times I have done *EXACTLY*  
what you described-flicking up and down to move through text-- only to  
find that the focus point was not just one, but often *several   
characters away from where I thought it was.  If that's Apple's best,  
it's not good enough for me.
Donna
Donna

From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
] On Behalf Of Josh de Lioncourt
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:06 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: aiphone, really tired of text edirting  
issues!


When you switch the rotor to characters, are you flicking up and down  
instead of left and right? Left and right flicks will still move you  
from item to item on the screen. You need to switch to the up/down  
flicking to move through the text specifically.  Practice in the Notes  
app to type and edit, which is what I did when I first got the phone.  
It really works quite well. Also, remember that VoiceOver is telling  
you where the insertion point is, and is not lying to you like Windows  
screen readers do. If you're a Mac user, it behaves the same way as  
the insertion point on the Mac. If not, remember that the insertion  
point is always between characters. If you are moving backward through  
the text with the upward flicking gesture, that places the insertion  
point to the left of the character you just heard. Moving forward with  
the downward flick places it to the right of the character you just  
heard.

HTH. Don't give up on your phone. It really works extremely well. :)

On Jul 8, 2009, at 8:06 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:


Hi all,

I am still having text editing issues.  I have used the rotor, but  
still cannot move the insertion point one character at a time.  If I  
make a mistake in an edit field, the only way I can seem to fix it is  
to delete the whole bloody thing, and start over.  This is simply not  
acceptable.  I just spent four hours trying to create my app store  
account, only to be told that I had timed out, and now have to start  
the whole ****ing process over.   If there isn't a faster way to deal  
with text entry, the iphone is going to have to go back.
Thanks for any suggestions, if you have them.
Best,
Donna

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