[macvoiceover] Re: aiphone, really tired of text edirting issues!

  • From: "Donna Goodin" <goodindo@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:13:26 -0400

John, I've been doing that since 8 this morning, going on 6.5 hours now.  In
all that time, the insertion point has *not *once been where it should be
according to Josh's instructions.
Donna

> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Panarese
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:36 PM
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> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: aiphone, really tired of text edirting
> issues!
> 
>      Actually, Josh is absolutely correct.  Trust me.  It took some
> frustrating hours to really grasp how this works and to get the hang
> of it, but he describes it perfectly.  You have to make sure you are
> in the text area and then use the up or down flick action.
> 
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> On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
> > Josh, I'm sorry, but you're just wrong.   I've been doing this since
> > 8 this morning.  I can't tell you how many times I have done
> > *EXACTLY* what you described-flicking up and down to move through
> > text-- only to find that the focus point was not just one, but often
> > *several  characters away from where I thought it was.  If that's
> > Apple's best, it's not good enough for me.
> > Donna
> > Donna
> >
> > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
> > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Josh de Lioncourt
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:06 PM
> > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: aiphone, really tired of text edirting
> > issues!
> >
> >
> > When you switch the rotor to characters, are you flicking up and
> > down instead of left and right? Left and right flicks will still
> > move you from item to item on the screen. You need to switch to the
> > up/down flicking to move through the text specifically.  Practice in
> > the Notes app to type and edit, which is what I did when I first got
> > the phone. It really works quite well. Also, remember that VoiceOver
> > is telling you where the insertion point is, and is not lying to you
> > like Windows screen readers do. If you're a Mac user, it behaves the
> > same way as the insertion point on the Mac. If not, remember that
> > the insertion point is always between characters. If you are moving
> > backward through the text with the upward flicking gesture, that
> > places the insertion point to the left of the character you just
> > heard. Moving forward with the downward flick places it to the right
> > of the character you just heard.
> >
> > HTH. Don't give up on your phone. It really works extremely well. :)
> >
> > On Jul 8, 2009, at 8:06 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am still having text editing issues.  I have used the rotor, but
> > still cannot move the insertion point one character at a time.  If I
> > make a mistake in an edit field, the only way I can seem to fix it
> > is to delete the whole bloody thing, and start over.  This is simply
> > not acceptable.  I just spent four hours trying to create my app
> > store account, only to be told that I had timed out, and now have to
> > start the whole ****ing process over.   If there isn't a faster way
> > to deal with text entry, the iphone is going to have to go back.
> > Thanks for any suggestions, if you have them.
> > Best,
> > Donna
> >
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> >
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