John, I've been doing that since 8 this morning, going on 6.5 hours now. In all that time, the insertion point has *not *once been where it should be according to Josh's instructions. Donna > -----Original Message----- > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Panarese > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:36 PM > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: aiphone, really tired of text edirting > issues! > > Actually, Josh is absolutely correct. Trust me. It took some > frustrating hours to really grasp how this works and to get the hang > of it, but he describes it perfectly. You have to make sure you are > in the text area and then use the up or down flick action. > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Managing Director > Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc. > 9 Nolan Court > Hauppauge, NY 11788 > Tel/Fax, (631) 724-4479 > Email, tvii@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Internet, http://www.tvi-web.com > > AUTHORIZED DISTRIBUTORS FOR PORTSET SYSTEMS LTD, COMPSOLUTIONS VA, > PREMIER ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGIES, INDEX, PAPENMEIER, REPRO-TRONICS, > DUXBURY, SEROTEK AND OTHER PRODUCTS FOR THE BLIND AND VISUALLY IMPAIRED > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > > Josh, I'm sorry, but you're just wrong. I've been doing this since > > 8 this morning. I can't tell you how many times I have done > > *EXACTLY* what you described-flicking up and down to move through > > text-- only to find that the focus point was not just one, but often > > *several characters away from where I thought it was. If that's > > Apple's best, it's not good enough for me. > > Donna > > Donna > > > > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover- > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Josh de Lioncourt > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:06 PM > > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: aiphone, really tired of text edirting > > issues! > > > > > > When you switch the rotor to characters, are you flicking up and > > down instead of left and right? Left and right flicks will still > > move you from item to item on the screen. You need to switch to the > > up/down flicking to move through the text specifically. Practice in > > the Notes app to type and edit, which is what I did when I first got > > the phone. It really works quite well. Also, remember that VoiceOver > > is telling you where the insertion point is, and is not lying to you > > like Windows screen readers do. If you're a Mac user, it behaves the > > same way as the insertion point on the Mac. If not, remember that > > the insertion point is always between characters. If you are moving > > backward through the text with the upward flicking gesture, that > > places the insertion point to the left of the character you just > > heard. Moving forward with the downward flick places it to the right > > of the character you just heard. > > > > HTH. Don't give up on your phone. It really works extremely well. :) > > > > On Jul 8, 2009, at 8:06 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I am still having text editing issues. I have used the rotor, but > > still cannot move the insertion point one character at a time. If I > > make a mistake in an edit field, the only way I can seem to fix it > > is to delete the whole bloody thing, and start over. This is simply > > not acceptable. I just spent four hours trying to create my app > > store account, only to be told that I had timed out, and now have to > > start the whole ****ing process over. If there isn't a faster way > > to deal with text entry, the iphone is going to have to go back. > > Thanks for any suggestions, if you have them. > > Best, > > Donna > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: > > 07/08/09 05:53:00 > > > > > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link > below. > > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: > 07/08/09 05:53:00 > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >