But what about those of us that use exclusively a Macbook? Is there a laptop equivalent for the numbpad on a MacBook? James A. Dean On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Gabe Vega wrote: > why not use numbed commander? you can set up on e key commands up for > any vo command you wish. > > Gabe Vega - Sent from my iPhone > (623) 565-9357 > > On Feb 23, 2011, at 7:19 AM, ashley <ash.cox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Yes, I agree. THey have done a great job of making web browsing accessible. >> The only part I don't like, is having to hold down so many keys to get >> things done. I mean... holding down control, option, command, H just to move >> to the next heading, in my opinion, is overkill. Yes, you have the roter, >> but then you have to keep changing the roter settings. I think if they did >> the following things: >> -ability to use up/down arrow keys to navigate the page, like most other >> screenreaders >> -single letter navigation (H and shift H for headings, g and shift G for >> graphics, v and shift V for visited links, T and shift T for tables, etc) >> -make the web pages read more like a text file (this would make selecting >> and browsing so much easier) >> web browsing on the mac would be so much easier and a hole lot more >> enjoyable. >> >> I'm not just trying to have a rant, but, at the moment, I spend more of my >> web browsing time on the mac trying to remember how many keys do what then I >> do, say, checking my youtube subscription uploads. >> >> ash >> >> >> Website: >> >> http://www.ashleycox.co.uk >> Twitter: >> http://www.twitter.com/ashleycox2 >> Blog160: >> http://www.blog160.com >> >> >> On 23/02/2011 11:57, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> I agree, >>> >>> In leopard, I avoided the web at all costs. windows had a faster, more >>> developed web browsing experience. That all changed with snow leopard. It >>> caught up, and past windows in certain regards to the point where I felt >>> like windows was no longer needed for the task. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx >>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 22, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Keith Reedy wrote: >>> >>>> Ash, >>>> >>>> With the item chooser, link chooser quick nav and so on, Safari works >>>> better than anything I have ever used. >>>> Keith Reedy >>>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 22, 2011, at 2:03 PM, ashley wrote: >>>> >>>>> I use quick nav most of the time; it does improve the experience. >>>>> ash >>>>> >>>>> Website: >>>>> http://www.ashleycox.co.uk >>>>> Twitter: >>>>> http://www.twitter.com/ashleycox2 >>>>> Blog160: >>>>> http://www.blog160.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 22/02/2011 18:06, Gabe Vega wrote: >>>>>> Turn quick nav on? >>>>>> >>>>>> Gabe Vega - Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> (623) 565-9357 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 22, 2011, at 11:43 AM, ashley<ash.cox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> While I've been a mac user for nearly 2 years now, One of th ethings >>>>>>> I've never been very good at is web browsing. To be honest, I found web >>>>>>> browsing on the mac almost annoying, probably because i'm used to using >>>>>>> a windows screenreader, and using just the arrow keys to navigate. One >>>>>>> of the things in VO that I don't like is constantly having to hold down >>>>>>> multiple keys, and using the ctrl option lock is just plain annoying. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, ranting aside, does anybody have any tips, no of any guides, >>>>>>> or any useful resources, for using voiceover with safari (or any html >>>>>>> content area for that matter)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I love the way voiceover does everything else, but the web experience >>>>>>> needs to be better. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for any suggestions! >>>>>>> Ash >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Website: >>>>>>> http://www.ashleycox.co.uk >>>>>>> Twitter: >>>>>>> http://www.twitter.com/ashleycox2 >>>>>>> Blog160: >>>>>>> http://www.blog160.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>>> >>>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>> >>>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>> >>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>> >>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>> >>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>> >>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>> >>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface >>> at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >