Travis, I really like the nuympad commander. I deliberately purchased a full size keyboard with my Mac mini so I could have that feature, but the Apple keyboards these days don't come with a num pad. You mentioned using an external num pad, which is an obvious solution for num pad commander lovers. I had lots of issues in the past with Windows laptops and num pads that didn't issue the right signals to enable them to be used as screen reader adjuncts, as for example, with the window eyes mouse keys. So for the question: is there a particular num pad that is known to work with a Mac laptops that will issue the proper signals so that num pad commander will work? Those numpads that didn't work right with screen readers worked ok for number entry, but I could care less about that. I want one that will let me have a Macbook Air and use numpad commander. Mary > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >