[macvoiceover] Re: VoiceOver periodically repeating focus
- From: David Poehlman <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:58:19 -0400
Good find, you should sent it to:
accessibility@xxxxxxxxx
On Oct 23, 2009, at 1:15 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
OK. Figured out something about this.
The screen saver is not at fault.
The announcement is caused when the Mac tries to put the display to
sleep. In Energy saver, change the display sleep time to 1 minute.
When you do, VoiceOver will repeat the focus once per minute.
Looking in to this further, it seems that display sleep is entirely
broken when VoiceOver is running. You can trigger display sleep at any
time by pressing control+shift+eject. If you press this key while
VoiceOver is running, the display briefly blinks off, then back on,
and VoiceOver announces the current focus. If you turn off VoiceOver,
then pressing this key puts the display to sleep until you press a key
or touch the trackpad.
SO, it seems that VoiceOver breaks display sleep.
This isn't good. On my MBP, I have display brightness normally set to
0% to conserve the battery, but I bet this still pulls power.
Even on machines that aren't portables, this isn't good. When you set
display sleep time to never, a warning appears that never allowing the
display to sleep will decrease its life. They probably mean that
you'll burn out the light eventually, or that the display might have
some sort of burn-in damage.
Does anyone know how to present and/or file VoiceOver bugs?
Bryan
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:23 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: VoiceOver periodically repeating focus
you can have the display sleep without the screen saver, but come to
think of it it might be sleep that does it too. I'd have to check
that one. can you turn the color brightness to 0 or do you need to
see it?
On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
But I need the display to sleep on my computer. This is a MacBook Pro,
and I don't want to drain the battery.
Shouldn't VoiceOver only make such an announcement when the screen
saver comes on? Maybe VoiceOver talking interrupts the screen saver?
Bryan
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:48 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: VoiceOver periodically repeating focus
set your screen saver time out to never oops!
On Oct 21, 2009, at 12:38 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
I've noticed that VoiceOver will, about every 2 minutes, repeat the
current window or focus when I leave the computer unattended.
For example, if I'm in the finder with the focus on the Macintosh HD
icon, every two minutes or so, VoiceOver will automatically say
finder, desktop, Macintosh HD, selected item.
This will happen over and over and over again.
This is on a new MacBook Pro. I have hardly any 3rd party software
installed. Do I have an incorrect setting? Could this maybe have
something to do with some sort of energy saver or screen saver stuff?
Bryan
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