[macvoiceover] Re: VoiceOver and Braille Display Question

  • From: "Sara" <push649@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:31:06 -0500

Not just in text edit. Even just when vo'ing around I can't read long lines of text. Like for example, a button with a long name.

Sara
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:40 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: VoiceOver and Braille Display Question


like in text edit?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sara" <push649@xxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:38 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: VoiceOver and Braille Display Question


I'm not at the Mac right now so need to tell you later.
The long lines are anything longer than 20 characters; usually only a word
or two.
Sara
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:34 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: VoiceOver and Braille Display Question


where is the long line.  what does input say about panning for your pac
mate
display?

does input list the two buttons you refer to?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sara" <push649@xxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:13 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: VoiceOver and Braille Display Question


I don't mean the routing keys, I mean the extra row of buttons above them
on
a pacmate display; I don't think the brailliant has that.
VO doesn't seem to see them as 20 separate keys. Yeah, Apple needs to do
more work on panning then because I can't read all the words of a long
line.
Sara
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:05 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: VoiceOver and Braille Display Question


Hi sara,

My experience is that the routing keys work quite well if you are in an
input area but not anywhere else.  if I understand this correctly, it is
also true in the rare instance in windows that there is a static box. as
for panning, this is also a factor of the edittable area.  if you are in
a
content composition area, it works for me with my alva and brailliants,
but
not in a read only area like the web or in the finder etc.  I will do
more
work on both of these and report though.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sara" <push649@xxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:40 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: VoiceOver and Braille Display Question


Good question. I am still trying to get my pm display to pan left and
right
and to scroll. VO doesn't scroll it so that I see all the text in a line;
I
just see the first couple words... sometimes only one word if it's a long
word since my display is only 20 cells. I have the VO manual but still
haven't figured out what I am doing wrong. lol
I also don't think VO is seeing each button as a separate button. My
display
has two rows of cursor-routing buttons and VO doesn't seem to number them
1
to 20 etc.
Sara
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richie Gardenhire" <richiegardenhire@xxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
the blind" <discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 11:32 AM
Subject: [macvoiceover] VoiceOver and Braille Display Question


Hello, I have never used a braille display with VoiceOver, and my
question is, do the supported braille devices/displays have associated
chords which are recognized by VoiceOver?  In other words, can the
braille device/display, in question, be used as a command facilitater
or
must these commands be performed directly from the Apple keyboard?
Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.

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