[macvoiceover] Re: Voice Over Questions.
- From: Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 10:26:10 -0600
Keith, let me know if you come across a need for test pilots for their
accessibility work.
Ian
On 2013-05-14, at 9:59 AM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> OpenOffice is now called LibreOffice and it still has some accessibility
> problems. I am working with some folks on there accessibility list to try to
> fix them.
> Keith Reedy
> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> On May 14, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Cindy Ray <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> What about Open Office for the Mac? Someone suggested that to me.
>>
>> Cindy Lou
>>
>> On May 14, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Just a heads up regarding Pages and Numbers. While they are the equivalent
>>> to MS Office, there are a few things that lack the power/authority you get
>>> from, for example, JFW with MS Word. Primary among these is the use of
>>> tables, which don't work under Voiceover. Apple Accessiblity says this is
>>> on the radar, but the last thing they told me was that nothing could really
>>> be done until an update to Pages itself, which hasn't happened since 2009.
>>> I also find I don't have the same control over things like columns.
>>>
>>> There are a couple of free word processors out there which do a decent job.
>>> I currently use Bean quite a bit, especially for documents that need
>>> headers and will end up as pdfs for people.
>>>
>>> One thing to remember is that the Jaws people and the MS Office people
>>> worked together with a particular focus on workplace productivity. Other
>>> things got left out in the process. My needs shfited from document
>>> production to a need for coordination, so seamless interactivity through my
>>> phone and Mac through iCloud became really important, and I settled for
>>> *good enough* in terms of documents.
>>>
>>> Just some thoughts,
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> On 2013-05-13, at 2:05 PM, covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>
>>>> You also have a voiceover option to make the cursor work like it does
>>>> under Windows.
>>>>
>>>> John Panarese <jpanarese@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>> I am not sure about an SSH client, so I will leave that up to someone
>>>>> else who is knowledgeable in that area.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for your editing area, remember that the cursors act differently as
>>>>> far as how VoiceOver identifies characters. On the Mac, the character
>>>>> the cursor passes over is spoken, while the Windows way is the character
>>>>> to the right of the cursor. This might be what you are experiencing.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for an Office package, the Apple Pages and Numbers applications are
>>>>> the equivalent to Word and Excel.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>
>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>> Director
>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
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>>>>> On May 13, 2013, at 2:34 PM, "Andrew Ireland" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I joined the list today. I have had my new Mac mini for just over a week
>>>>>> and would be grateful if someone could clear up a few questions please.
>>>>>> This is me moving back to Mac after 5 years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the best SSH client to use? I have tried terminal with no
>>>>>> success
>>>>>> at all. I need to connect to a CentOS system. A sighted friend
>>>>>> recommended
>>>>>> VSSH, however, I was reluctant to purchase it not knowing if it would be
>>>>>> accessible with Voice Over.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am experiencing a strange problem when composing a new e-mail message
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> Mac Mail. If I delete 1 character and type another character it would
>>>>>> appear to just delete the character I had just typed. If I interact with
>>>>>> the mail window everything is fine. My question is, do you need to
>>>>>> interact
>>>>>> when typing a new message or using text edit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder if anyone can recommend the best Office package to enable word
>>>>>> processing and spread sheets?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks in advance for any information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew.
>>>>>>
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