[macvoiceover] Re: Voice Over Questions.

  • From: Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 11:59:02 -0400

OpenOffice is now called LibreOffice and it still has some accessibility 
problems.  I am working with some folks on there accessibility list to try to 
fix them.
Keith Reedy
keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx



On May 14, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Cindy Ray <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> What about Open Office for the Mac? Someone suggested that to me.
> 
> Cindy Lou
> 
> On May 14, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> Just a heads up regarding Pages and Numbers. While they are the equivalent 
>> to MS Office, there are a few things that lack the power/authority you get 
>> from, for example, JFW with MS Word. Primary among these is the use of 
>> tables, which don't work under Voiceover. Apple Accessiblity says this is on 
>> the radar, but the last thing they told me was that nothing could really be 
>> done until an update to Pages itself, which hasn't happened since 2009. I 
>> also find I don't have the same control over things like columns.
>> 
>> There are a couple of free word processors out there which do a decent job. 
>> I currently use Bean quite a bit, especially for documents that need headers 
>> and will end up as pdfs for people.
>> 
>> One thing to remember is that the Jaws people and the MS Office people 
>> worked together with a particular focus on workplace productivity. Other 
>> things got left out in the process.  My needs shfited from document 
>> production to a need for coordination, so seamless interactivity through my 
>> phone and Mac through iCloud became really important, and I settled for 
>> *good enough* in terms of documents.
>> 
>> Just some thoughts,
>> 
>> Ian
>> 
>> On 2013-05-13, at 2:05 PM, covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> 
>>> You also have a voiceover option to make the cursor work like it does
>>> under Windows.
>>> 
>>> John Panarese <jpanarese@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>  I am not sure about an SSH client, so I will leave that up to someone 
>>>> else who is knowledgeable in that area.
>>>> 
>>>>  As for your editing area, remember that the cursors act differently as 
>>>> far as how VoiceOver identifies characters.  On the Mac, the character the 
>>>> cursor passes over is spoken, while the Windows way is the character to 
>>>> the right of the cursor.  This might be what you are experiencing.
>>>> 
>>>> As for an Office package, the Apple Pages and Numbers applications are the 
>>>> equivalent to Word and Excel.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Take Care
>>>> 
>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>> Director
>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> On May 13, 2013, at 2:34 PM, "Andrew Ireland" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I joined the list today.  I have had my new Mac mini for just over a week
>>>>> and would be grateful if someone could clear up a few questions please.
>>>>> This is me moving back to Mac after 5 years.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What is the best SSH client to use?  I have tried terminal with no success
>>>>> at all.  I need to connect to a CentOS system.  A sighted friend 
>>>>> recommended
>>>>> VSSH, however, I was reluctant to purchase it not knowing if it would be
>>>>> accessible with Voice Over.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am experiencing a strange problem when composing a new e-mail message in
>>>>> Mac Mail.  If I delete 1 character and type another character it would
>>>>> appear to just delete the character I had just typed.  If I interact with
>>>>> the mail window everything is fine.  My question is, do you need to 
>>>>> interact
>>>>> when typing a new message or using text edit?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I wonder if anyone can recommend the best Office package to enable word
>>>>> processing and spread sheets?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many thanks in advance for any information.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andrew.
>>>>> 
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