OpenOffice is now called LibreOffice and it still has some accessibility problems. I am working with some folks on there accessibility list to try to fix them. Keith Reedy keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx On May 14, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Cindy Ray <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > What about Open Office for the Mac? Someone suggested that to me. > > Cindy Lou > > On May 14, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Just a heads up regarding Pages and Numbers. While they are the equivalent >> to MS Office, there are a few things that lack the power/authority you get >> from, for example, JFW with MS Word. Primary among these is the use of >> tables, which don't work under Voiceover. Apple Accessiblity says this is on >> the radar, but the last thing they told me was that nothing could really be >> done until an update to Pages itself, which hasn't happened since 2009. I >> also find I don't have the same control over things like columns. >> >> There are a couple of free word processors out there which do a decent job. >> I currently use Bean quite a bit, especially for documents that need headers >> and will end up as pdfs for people. >> >> One thing to remember is that the Jaws people and the MS Office people >> worked together with a particular focus on workplace productivity. Other >> things got left out in the process. My needs shfited from document >> production to a need for coordination, so seamless interactivity through my >> phone and Mac through iCloud became really important, and I settled for >> *good enough* in terms of documents. >> >> Just some thoughts, >> >> Ian >> >> On 2013-05-13, at 2:05 PM, covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >> >>> You also have a voiceover option to make the cursor work like it does >>> under Windows. >>> >>> John Panarese <jpanarese@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Andrew, >>>> I am not sure about an SSH client, so I will leave that up to someone >>>> else who is knowledgeable in that area. >>>> >>>> As for your editing area, remember that the cursors act differently as >>>> far as how VoiceOver identifies characters. On the Mac, the character the >>>> cursor passes over is spoken, while the Windows way is the character to >>>> the right of the cursor. This might be what you are experiencing. >>>> >>>> As for an Office package, the Apple Pages and Numbers applications are the >>>> equivalent to Word and Excel. >>>> >>>> >>>> Take Care >>>> >>>> John D. Panarese >>>> Director >>>> Mac for the Blind >>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>> >>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION >>>> >>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>> >>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 13, 2013, at 2:34 PM, "Andrew Ireland" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>> >>>>> I joined the list today. I have had my new Mac mini for just over a week >>>>> and would be grateful if someone could clear up a few questions please. >>>>> This is me moving back to Mac after 5 years. >>>>> >>>>> What is the best SSH client to use? I have tried terminal with no success >>>>> at all. I need to connect to a CentOS system. A sighted friend >>>>> recommended >>>>> VSSH, however, I was reluctant to purchase it not knowing if it would be >>>>> accessible with Voice Over. >>>>> >>>>> I am experiencing a strange problem when composing a new e-mail message in >>>>> Mac Mail. If I delete 1 character and type another character it would >>>>> appear to just delete the character I had just typed. If I interact with >>>>> the mail window everything is fine. My question is, do you need to >>>>> interact >>>>> when typing a new message or using text edit? >>>>> >>>>> I wonder if anyone can recommend the best Office package to enable word >>>>> processing and spread sheets? >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks in advance for any information. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Andrew. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>> >>>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>> >>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>> >>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Your life is like a penny. 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The question is: >>> How do >>> you spend it? >>> >>> John Covici >>> covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>> >>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >> >>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> > >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >