[macvoiceover] Re: Very odd suspicions about Safari

  • From: "Chris Gilland" <clgilland07@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:05:05 -0400

John, thank you. I will see if my grandmother is willing to run me up to Southpark mall, so I can look at a Leopard machine and see if I have the same issue or not.


Chris.


----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hess" <johnythehess@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:02 AM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Very odd suspicions about Safari


Actually, it is your system. I have used a g4 for a long time and one of the reasons I switched to an intel machine is the speed at which pages load. there are many factors here but working on both systems The g4 along with 512 megs will load quite slowly. I have one at work and am amazed at the difference. My other apps are fine. So, sory for that answer but I think if you go to an apple store and try the same thing on an intel you will see a big difference. Blind Cool Tech for me will load in about a minute to a minute and 30 seconds. It's huge. I can use headings to navigate it and I have also used the item chooser list to get to a particular part of the page. Have a great day.

On Jul 25, 2008, at 8:40 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:

ok, this is somewhat strange. I guess it kind a makes sinse, but, just hear me out here, cause then again, not really.

Basicly, I am running Safari V3. It's the latest build. BTW, yes guys, I finally am starting to get the hang of it. I'm kind a forcing myself to use it more and more. In any rate: I am noticing that web sites are taking for ungodly long to load. I mean, so much so, it's almost like I'm on dialup if not worse.

It's absolutely pathetic!

For instance:  blindcooltech.com

took almost five minutes literally speaking just to chime, and load all the way.

acbradio.org took almost two minutes.

however other sites like say: google, or say, aol.com, or, o, I dono, say, jfwlite.com, or yahoo.com

Come up almost instantly.

Not quite instantly but maybe within 10 or 15 seconds. It's still slower than my comfort, but, it's certainly a big improvement from 10 minutes to load bct, or five mins actually, sorry. Seems like ten though. LOL! Literalloy speaking? I've not timed it, granted, but I'm assuming, in all realisticness, and in all literality, it's probably taking five minutes. Now, here is the odd thing though. It's not my internet connection. I have two other windows machines. These pages load in less than a tenth of a second nearly. literally I hit enter to load the page, and bam! It's up.

I got voice over set to automatically interact with html content. I shut off the toolbar, and the bookmarks bar from the view menu in Safari.

I also went under general in the Safari preferences, and told it to start with a blank untitled page. I went into security, in the Safari preferences, and disabled images from loading, and also disabled java for the time being. Not java script. I still got that enabled, but I disabled just plain oal Java. I also went in the voice over utility and unchecked the box to group html content. I was suspicious that it was likely that was slowing it down as it had to think to process what needed to be grouped. Well all this did! significantly speed things up, but it's still a little slow. all other internet based programs though like Fire, Skype, Mail, etc. work just fine though. no lag at all.

Now, having said all this: I know that I have a Tiger system Power Mac G4 500MHZ, and I am running 1.5GB of S D Ram. I'm wonderring, if the processer being so slow, is causing it to take so long. I did a trace route, and that looked fine. I even pinged google and that also looked just fine. there was no packet loss. I had Time Warner look to see if the HF signal was too high, or too low, and the DB level on the line looks fine. Also a ping to my modem showed no packet loss. the amount of hops in the trace route report looks fine. So does the time over those hops. This is almost thus, leading me, being that I connected my modem directly to my other pc's and also went through my router, and in both senarios, they are a lot faster than the Mac. The Mac is showing the exact same ping and trace route results. everything looks good, to wonder, if this may be an issue with my slow processer. I kind a doubt it though, as if that was the case, wouldn't all my other applications, be slow? I know some apps take higher threading priority than others, but, that still doesn't really fully answer my question. I'm just trying to pinpoint down why this is happenning. I seem to recall in Safari 2, before I updated, that I had this same issue.

Anyway, any help would be wonderfully appreciated. Yes, I have done software update. All is perfectly up to date and fine.

Yes I did clear my history, and my cache.

Chris.

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