yes, the control and alt are control and option so I was wondering about this. I can seee the point though because they are not adjacent to one another as they are on the Mac keyboards. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richie Gardenhire" <richiegardenhire@xxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 1:26 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Using a Standard Windows Keyboard with the Mac I use a standard Windows keyboard all the time on one of my machines. The only thing I can't do with it is Volume Up or Down, and Eject; otherwise, all other functions work well. Richie Gardenhire, anchorage, Alaska. On Apr 27, 2008, at 9:13 AM, vashaun jones wrote: > You can get a refurbish one from Apple. I forget the cost because I > wanted the new one. > On Apr 27, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Neal Ewers wrote: > >> Ah, now that would solve the problem, wouldn't it? When I talked >> with my >> Mac store here in town, they only had the flat ones, but I will do >> some >> research. That way, I don't have to keep swapping my keyboard back >> and >> forth between my Mac and my Windows Lap-top computer. >> >> Thanks, David. >> >> Neal >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David >> Poehlman >> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 12:00 PM >> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Using a Standard Windows Keyboard with >> the Mac >> >> hmm, the new one is flat but the older ones that are plastic are >> stepped. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Neal Ewers" <neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 12:54 PM >> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Using a Standard Windows Keyboard with >> the Mac >> >> >> Hi David. Thanks for this. I'll try it. But I have one >> question. When >> you talk about Mac wired keyboards, what do you mean. I already >> have a USB >> Mac keyboard, but it is the lap-top style with all the keys flat >> and I >> wanted to have my keys stepped as they are on many Windows 101 key >> keyboards. Is there some other kind of Wired Mac keyboard that you >> were >> speaking of? >> Thanks. >> >> Neal >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David >> Poehlman >> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 10:31 AM >> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Using a Standard Windows Keyboard with >> the Mac >> >> Neil, >> >> In system prefs, keyboard and mouse, there is a keyboard shortcuts >> tab and >> there is where you can change your "modifiers". I have not done >> this and do >> not know if it applies to windows keyboards but that would be where >> to do >> it. >> >> On the other hand, if you can get hold of a former or even current >> mac wired >> keyboard, you could have the best of both worlds. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Neal Ewers" <neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 6:36 PM >> Subject: [macvoiceover] Using a Standard Windows Keyboard with the >> Mac >> >> >> Hi all, Today I substituted the keyboard I was given for the Mac >> with a USB >> standard Windows keyboard. I was asked to press certain keys on the >> keyboard and the Mac politely recognized the Windows keyboard. It >> assigned >> the Command key to the Windows key, (the key right of the control >> key on the >> left). Because of some hand problems I am having, I would like the >> VoiceOver keys to be close together like they are on the Mac >> without the >> Command key being in the middle. On the right side of the >> keyboard, it did >> not assign the Applications key to anything, so I can only use the >> VoiceOver >> modifier keys on the left. So, here is the question. >> >> Is there any way to remap these keys on the Mac? >> >> Thanks for your help. By the way, I like this keyboard because it >> is more >> like a desktop keyboard with stair steps between the rows of keys >> rather >> than being flat like a laptop keyboard. I just make more mistakes >> on the >> flat keyboard. I can certainly live with what I have, but first, I >> wanted >> to make sure I had to. >> >> Neal >> >> >> >>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link >>> below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >> >>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link >>> below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >> >> >>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link >>> below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >> >>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link >>> below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> > >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link >> below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the >> Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >