It is not counter intuitive, it fixes intuition. does 15 years constitute a life? I used windows as my first well dos or perhaps cpm which all did the same thing experience. It is not a matter of what you do by habit or what you are used too. if that were the case, we wouldn't be using the iphone.
On Aug 29, 2009, at 3:37 AM, Sara wrote:No, definitely not. It's counterintuitive if you've used Windows all your life. It's great that Apple gives people both options. It's too bad that the Windows scree-readers don't have both features.
Anyway, I think it's great for VO to have so many more options. All I need now is a copy of Snow Leopard and I'll be good to go. wink Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: carlene knight To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:05 AM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Tip for Snow Leopard: When Moving the Cursor So I'm not the only one huh? On Aug 28, 2009, at 11:59 PM, Sara wrote:
As far as I know both options are available so you can keep it on the one you are used to. I am going to change mine as I always delete the wrong letter when trying to edit on my Mac.Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: David Poehlman To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:41 AMSubject: [macvoiceover] Re: Tip for Snow Leopard: When Moving the CursorIt's not an objection, it's a statement of fact. I'm gonna have huge problems supporting this one.On Aug 29, 2009, at 12:57 AM, Sara wrote: hahahaha David I knew you were going to object! Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: David Poehlman To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:14 PMSubject: [macvoiceover] Re: Tip for Snow Leopard: When Moving the Cursorit's evil! On Aug 28, 2009, at 9:17 PM, Sara wrote: That's great! Thanks! Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: Blake Sinnett To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; macvisionaries@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:04 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Tip for Snow Leopard: When Moving the Cursor Hello all,For you ex-Windows users, Snow leopard has a feature that just might make your lives a little easier.If you're used to editing a document in Windows, you'll be used to the screen readers for that platform speaking everything to the right of the insertion point. VoiceOver's default behavior, however, speaks characters the insertion point passes. If you were at the top of a document and the first word was VoiceOver, for example, you would hear the capital V, because the insertion point just passed that character. You would hear the capital V again if you pressed left arrow, because the insertion point would pass the letter going in the opposite direction.In Snow Leopard, there is now a setting that will speak characters to the right of the insertion point.Open the VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8.When you land in the categories table, press V to get to the verbosity category.VO-right arrow twice to the text tab, and VO-space to select it. VO-right arrow until you hear "When Moving the Cursor."VO-right arrow one more time. You should hear "Speak text the cursor passes." Press VO-space to open the pop-up button.VO-down arrow to select speak text to the right of the cursor. Press VO-Space to select the option and close the pop-up menu. Press command-Q to quit the VoiceOver Utility.When you're in a document and move by character, you should now have the more familiar Windows screen reader behavior. This might not be to everybody's taste, but I thought it might be useful for some.Thanks, Blake
