Unfortunately, the archives hold more answers than I do. The bug that was introduced though is the one where if you backspace, instead of hearing the deleted char, you heard the one to the left of it. I recall dimly some fixes to mail and safari that seemed to help us in VO.
I think you have found all there is available publicly on the new os.Please see my comments below marked with DP for observations on your issues.
On Apr 3, 2007, at 6:26 PM, Ron J. wrote: The most agregious bugs I still see in VO are:1. If you use Ctrl+Opt+Cmd+F2 to close the VO Utility, you hear the message, "Unable to close window", but the program goes bye-bye, anyway.
dp: what's rong with using command+q?2. In the Commands Menu (Ctrl+Opt+HH), in TextEdit, you have the following: "Current word - W", "Current word Phonetically - WW", "Current word phonetically - WWW". They should be: "Current word - W", "Current word alphabetically - WW", & "Currrent word phonetically - WWW". This is correct in the Commands Menu for Mail.
dp: <smile>3. The Link-Chooser Menu, doesn't speak the link you've chosen, as the Item-Chooser Menu does, when an item is chosen from it. dp: It is actually quite interesting. you use vo keys to traverse the list, press vo keys with space and it takes you out of the menu but leaves you near where the link you chose is. I find this helpful when I am looking for a place on a page.
The only other things which come to mind, at the moment are,:1. In Mail, if I hit the backspace key, I don't hear the letter being deleted, like I should. 2. Sometimes applications, Safari in particular, seem to spend an inordinate amount of time being "busy". Sometimes, I feel as though I'm spending more time waiting on things to become "un-busy", than actually getting anything done! 3. You can't read the attributes of text-items on a web page - i.e. font, style, colors, etc. To do this, you either need to select, "Mail Contents of This Page", from Safari's "File" menu, or save it as a "Web Archive", then open it in TextEdit. This works, when you're designing web pages, but its a real pain!
dp: we all have seen these.If anyone has any thoughts on what I've just written, by all means, sing out!
dp: have you reported them to: accessability@xxxxxxxxx? Regards, Ron On Apr 3, 2007, at 9:54 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
While I agree that they are not readily apparent perhaps a bit subtle even, I've seen some improvements with regard to VoiceOver during the Tiger age. I also recall at least one mention of enhancements to VoiceOver. i saw at least one bug fix and one but introduced where VO is concerned, but we must remember that updates to the core os which have been done frequently, will impact VO in sometimes way subtle enough that it might not be readily evident.Click on the link below to go to our homepage.http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverUsers can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover
Ron Johnson | AKA Ganahee"For millions of years, mankind lived, just like the animals. Then something happened, which unleashed the power of our imagination - we learned to talk."
From the MD "The Division Bell", the track "Keep Talking".
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