[macvoiceover] Re: Tigher software updates and VoiceOver:
- From: "Ron J." <Ganahee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 17:26:37 -0500
David,
I've been using VoiceOver for 2 years now, and before that, I was
part of the Spoken Interface PReview project. Previous to all this,
I used OutSPOKEN 8 & 9. I've used many other screen reader packages,
prior to becoming a Mac user in 1999.
If you could, please, and you can remember some details, refresh my
memory. What improvements have been made in VO, during the reign of
Tiger? What bug was fixed? What bug was introduced? What
enhancements to VO, other than Mr. Jobs mentioning the new voice,
Alex, (coming out with Leopard), have been mentioned, and where?
The only real enhancement/bug-fix, I can recall, was, early on, VO
had a problem, when arrowing through bulleted lists on a web page.
Sometimes, the VO Cursor would just jump back to the beginning of the
list! This got really frustrating! Also, I recall a problem, where
Safari would crash, when you tried checking all messages in a Yahoo!
Mail account. I notice that problem, and the bulleted list problem,
no longer occur.
The most agregious bugs I still see in VO are:
1. If you use Ctrl+Opt+Cmd+F2 to close the VO Utility, you hear the
message, "Unable to close window", but the program goes bye-bye, anyway.
2. In the Commands Menu (Ctrl+Opt+HH), in TextEdit, you have the
following: "Current word - W", "Current word Phonetically - WW",
"Current word phonetically - WWW". They should be: "Current word -
W", "Current word alphabetically - WW", & "Currrent word phonetically
- WWW". This is correct in the Commands Menu for Mail.
3. The Link-Chooser Menu, doesn't speak the link you've chosen, as
the Item-Chooser Menu does, when an item is chosen from it.
The only other things which come to mind, at the moment are,:
1. In Mail, if I hit the backspace key, I don't hear the letter
being deleted, like I should.
2. Sometimes applications, Safari in particular, seem to spend an
inordinate amount of time being "busy". Sometimes, I feel as though
I'm spending more time waiting on things to become "un-busy", than
actually getting anything done!
3. You can't read the attributes of text-items on a web page - i.e.
font, style, colors, etc. To do this, you either need to select,
"Mail Contents of This Page", from Safari's "File" menu, or save it
as a "Web Archive", then open it in TextEdit. This works, when
you're designing web pages, but its a real pain!
If anyone has any thoughts on what I've just written, by all means,
sing out!
Regards,
Ron
On Apr 3, 2007, at 9:54 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
While I agree that they are not readily apparent perhaps a bit
subtle even, I've seen some improvements with regard to VoiceOver
during the Tiger age. I also recall at least one mention of
enhancements to VoiceOver. i saw at least one bug fix and one but
introduced where VO is concerned, but we must remember that updates
to the core os which have been done frequently, will impact VO in
sometimes way subtle enough that it might not be readily evident.
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