Ok, I got the headers to work.
someone told me i did not need to stop interacting with the web page.
I found out Yes you have to stop interacting with the web page. to use
the headers.
Now though i can not read line by line
Isn't this command
control option up and down arrow?
if so do i need to stop interacting with theweb page?
also can a person update safari with out having to update the total osx
operating system?
On 8/22/2015 4:18 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
I stand corrected; I must have thought I had finished searching the whole document when I had not.
First of all, you could try rebooting if you haven't already done that.
Secondly, You could try resetting all voiceover preferences though this isn't actually a preference that you set. But I do know that when i've had focus issues, etc. I have reset my preferences and then done my choices over again and this has solved it.
Go into voiceover utility and over to file and down to reset all voiceover preferences. You'll be asked to confirm this. Just realize that this means you will have to go in and choose your preferences all over again because they will be back to defaults. But after you do the preferences reset and before you change anything back to the way you prefer it, do vo-k and try the cmd-option-ctrl-h again and see if this has fixed it. But at the same time remember that you can set this up in your rotor although it may not be as convenient.
I must say that I was reminded of a few things about navigating the web with voiceover that I don't use often and had forgotten: not specifically in Snow Leopard but also here in Yosemite. Voiceover has come a long way from when it was first presented in Mac OS Tiger!
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Cheryl
The name of Jesus is not only light but also food;
it is also oil, without which all food of the soul is dry;
it is salt, without whose seasoning whatever is set before us is insipid;
finally, it is honey in the mouth,
melody in the ear,
rejoicing in the heart,
and at the same time medicine.
Every discourse in which his name is not spoken is without savor.
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On Aug 22, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Singing Sparrow <sunshine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:sunshine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
according to the getting started guide the control option command h is there so not sure why it is not working.
On 8/22/2015 11:22 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
I want to clarify that the link I gave is the link to the "getting started" page with the voiceover manuals. You then must find the snow leopard one and download that.
--
Cheryl
The name of Jesus is not only light but also food;
it is also oil, without which all food of the soul is dry;
it is salt, without whose seasoning whatever is set before us is insipid;
finally, it is honey in the mouth,
melody in the ear,
rejoicing in the heart,
and at the same time medicine.
Every discourse in which his name is not spoken is without savor.
(Bernard as quoted in Calvin's Institutes)
On Aug 22, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
It appears to me that it is not a bug. I just took the time to look at the voiceover getting started for snow leopard which I found using google. I admit I might be missing something but a quick search for headers in that document reveals no cmd-option-control-h keystroke; again, I'm not saying unequivocally it is not there. If it doesn't show when you do vo-k and cmd-option-ctrl-h then it was not yet introduced and that would not make it a bug. Things that haven't been included yet just aren't included; they aren't bugs.
There are other ways to access headers. They were an item in the rotor in Snow leopard and so you can put them in your rotor in your voiceover utility settings and use the rotor to navigate to them. it also appears that, if you have a trackpad, you can use gestures to navigate them. I am including below the link to the rtf file posted on the macfortheblind website; I believe when you find the snow leopard voiceover getting started for snow leopard link the file will download and open in text edit for you; if not look for it in downloads once you have hit the link if it doesn't show in safari.
http://macfortheblind.com/Getting-started-with-the-Mac-and-VoiceOver
As for the Keyboard Commander, it doesn't appear that "headers" are an option in keyboard commander in Yosemite; I don't know if it would be an option in Snow Leopard or not. If it was, it would be under "web" i would imagine once you select the keyboard commander under commanders in voiceover utility, do vo-space on add" and do vo-space on the menu button.
--
Cheryl
The name of Jesus is not only light but also food;
it is also oil, without which all food of the soul is dry;
it is salt, without whose seasoning whatever is set before us is insipid;
finally, it is honey in the mouth,
melody in the ear,
rejoicing in the heart,
and at the same time medicine.
Every discourse in which his name is not spoken is without savor.
(Bernard as quoted in Calvin's Institutes)
On Aug 22, 2015, at 1:33 AM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
If it's not there, you should be able to set it up using keyboard commander.
Ian
On Aug 22, 2015, at 12:26 AM, Singing Sparrow <sunshine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ok, so when in safari do vo k and then press control option command and see if it is even there?
If it is there and it should be working what is wrong and how can i fix it? if it is not there can a person make it usable when needing to? or will i have to update to even get this to work correctly?
On 8/22/2015 1:15 AM, Ian Edwards wrote:
Have you been able to use the key combination anywhere else? It's not one I use regularly, so I admit that I don't know where else it might be applied. You could try activating the key describer with VO K, then try the key combination to see what it reports. It's possible that for some reason the key combination just isn't active on that computer.
Ian
On Aug 22, 2015, at 12:11 AM, Tuscia Falconer <tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In the voiceOver Utilities, under Web - Navigation are you set to DOM or Group ?
This doesn't make a lot of difference though DOm should offer more headings.
It may be that SN does not offer this key command.
Are you on your friends computer, can you test another SN computer ?
TF
On 22/08/2015, at 6:05 pm, Singing Sparrow <sunshine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:sunshine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I have tried many pages and the control option command h will not work it is like voice over is ignoring the command set.
I have tried the following.
http://www.yahoo.com <http://www.yahoo.com/>
http://www.betanews.com <http://www.betanews.com/>
http://www.blindbargains.com
just to name a few.
On 8/22/2015 12:17 AM, Tuscia Falconer wrote:
Try a different web page.
TF
On 22/08/2015, at 1:59 pm, Singing Sparrow <sunshine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ok, have a question for all of you.
using snow leppard, safari web browser.
When doing control option comand h nothing happens.
Have tried fn control option comand h and still nothing happens.
Is there a problem with voice over and snow leppard and safari?
I know this is an old versionof osx but wanted to ask about it here.
Can anyone tell me if this is something i am doing wrong or is this a problem with the osx version/voiceover/ safari version i am using currently?
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