Ron, grouping items in webpages allows you to read large bodys of information at once rather then moveing line by line. also, I have found it to help when dealing with information rendered in a table type of format. Example: when I read e-mail on the web I can move to the word subject and actually move down through the subject titles and then when I find one I want move through the columns such as date sent, time, body of message. It's one of those options that pleases some of the people some of the time and not all of the people all of the time. I would say review a web page in both ways and pick which suits you best. you might find that it's helpful in some pages and a total anoyance on others. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron J." <Ganahee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 4:38 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Shiira
Hey Keith,Perhaps, if it wouldn't be too much trouble, you could give me a rundown on how you have Shiiara configured to work best with VO?I do have that checkbox checked in the VO utility, but Shiira doesn't seem to behave like Safari - that is, speak the first thing that the VO cursor lands on when the new web page loads.Also, what is the advantage to grouping itens in a web page, as opposed to not doing that? I currently don't do that, but that document, "Using Mac Apps with VoiceOver", seemed to suggest setting VO up that way.If anyone else wants to chime in, with suggestions as to optimizing Shiiara to work best with VO, please do! Shiira is faster, and does seem to be "busy" a lot less than Safari, and those things, alone, make it worth using more often!Again, thanks! Ron On Apr 5, 2007, at 1:10 PM, Keith Reedy wrote:Ron,I am having no trouble with Voiceover cursor moving to a newly loaded webpage with Shiira.Make sure that you have Voiceover cursor moves to newly loaded webpage checked in the navagation tab in the Voiceover, pannel, control-option-f8.And remember Shiira uses tabs to a greater extent than Safari does. Maybe this will be of some help. KeithClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.com Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverUsers can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover- request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverRon Johnson | AKA Ganahee"For millions of years, mankind lived, just like the animals. Then something happened, which unleashed the power of our imagination - we learned to talk."From the MD "The Division Bell", the track "Keep Talking".Click on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.com Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverUsers can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover
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