What display are you using? There aren't many differences from windows on the Mac with regard to braille that are not accounted for in VoiceOver. We will be interested in your impressions. I especially like the way the keyboard focus is represented in braille. It helps to understand the cursor concept by representing the cursor as two dots rather than the bottom of a cell. So, with the differences between the Mac and windows and the differences between VoiceOver and windows environments due in part at least to the differences between the Mac and windows, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremiah Rogers" <jzr4lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 10:52 AM Subject: [macvoiceover] Seeking Feedback From Braille Display Users braille on the Mac is quite interesting. I read a lot, use output mostly, control the display output, use grade two almost exclusively and would like to see more capabilities to customize the output. Hello all. I've attained the use of a braille display for a couple weeks as an evaluation toward a likely purchase of one. I want to be sure to get the full experience of using a braille display before having to give this one back, so hope that the braille display users among you can provide me some guidance as to features that you do or don't use of your braille display and screen reader combo. I've thrown some questions out to guide your thoughts, but I'm surely not limited to these questions in terms of the feedback I'd find helpful. Thanks in advance for your help, and I look forward to reading your responses. How do you use your braille display? For what tasks would you not want to live without your braille display? For what tasks is it less than desirable and why? Do you primarily use it for proofreading, screen access, replacement for speech, access to text only, or some combination of these? Do you use its ability to input text? Why or why not? Is that your primary, or even your sole, means of interaction with your PC? How much customization of the display's key commands do you do? Do you use your screen reader's ability to output in grade II? How often? Do you browse the web using braille, and if so, do you read text with braille and navigate with speech, use braille for both, or some other combination? If you use braille to browse the web for text or navigation, do you encounter situations where content on the web is difficult to access using braille alone? If so, what problems do you encounter? Once more, thanks tremendously for your thoughts and feedback, and feel free to write me privately with any of this information if you like. Very gratefully, Jeremiah Z. Rogers > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >