[macvoiceover] Re: Seasoned users, please share what you have learned.
- From: Ron J. <ganahee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:38:46 -0500
Hey everyone,
I *love* the Item Chooser, Link Chooser (although I wish it'd speak
the link you select, when its landed on), and the NumPad Commander! I
was disappointed to see that Apple hadn't put that into the first
version of VO. Virtually *every* screen reader I've ever used (and
I've been using them a long time), has had NumPad navigation of some
kind - even OutSPOKEN - none of them have had it like it is in
Leopard, and it's great!
One of the functions in Leopard's VO, which I find *EXTREMELY*
useful, is the "Copy last spoken phrase to Pasteboard" command - VO-
Shift-C.
I have an MP3 collection of nearly 9000 songs, and I'm using
Wikipedia to research the Genres, Composers, Years, etc for them. I
use this command to copy things from the page, such as composer's
names, etc, then copy them into the appropriate places in iTunes.
This makes my work much more enjoyable/easier, and it ensures accuracy
(assuming the data on the page is accurate). This function doesn't
seem to work well with the VO-A command (Speak contents of VO-
cursor). Usually, all I get out of that is a "space". If Apple can
fix this, it should be a really "Killer" function!
Something else I find particularly useful, is Dom & Group
navigation. I use Group Navigation, most of the time, on web pages
(although I didn't use it at first). It makes them lots easier to
navigate and digest. I use Dom Navigation to help with reading the
chat window in Adium & Skype, as, according to one of Adium's
developers, Apple has some sort of bug in their HTML rendering which
necessitates either turning VO off, then back on again (Command-F5),
or using Dom Navigation, to read this text, as VO doesn't always see
new IMs which come in.
I've used Hot-Spots, some, but honestly, haven't found any real major
uses for them, but in some instances, they are helpful.
Help Tags are great - especially in apps which don't have labeled
buttons.
There are lots of other *great* VO commands. Learn more about them
by invoking the VO Menu (VO-F7, then VO-Down Arrow once to help, and
select it.
Hope all this is helpful to everyone - especially all you new users
out there! BTW, welcome to our community!!!
Take Care!
Ron
On Apr 22, 2008, at 2:38 PM, John Panarese wrote:
Hi Keith,
This is a great idea. I can say that one of the best features
in Leopard that I have been using more and more is the num pad
commander. I think it gives the user so much power and flexibility.
Take Care
John Panarese
On Apr 22, 2008, at 2:06 PM, Keith Reedy wrote:
Hi folks,
Many of us have been using the MAC and Voiceover for a long time
and we have a lot to share. We now have several new, or, wood-be
MAC users on the list. From time to time, please send along
something that you have learned to the list. I say from time to
time because we have new folks joining this list almost every day.
And new list members, you mite want to create a mailbox with a name
something like, learning the MAC, or, what ever you find useful to
store these how-to messages in.
Thanks to every one.
Keith Reedy
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