yes, but this is more the fault of the maker of the phone screen reader
and the notetaker maker than it is the mac. But, yes, there are some
things you must use windows for. I still must use windows for my work
because it is required.
On Aug 3, 2009, at 2:31 PM, Bob Hill wrote:
Well, I had a Windows machine that crashed, so I needed to purchase a
new computer. I have had the iMac for almost a year now, and I only find
a few things which I wish I had Windows for.
Such as installing my screen reader for my cell phone, getting firmware
for my notetaker, and such.
I still haven't installed Windows on this Mac, and right now, I'm
guessing I can use someone's computer if I *really* need Windows.
Bob Hill
On Aug 3, 2009, at 2:09 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
I don't know how to say this but I'm going to try and say something
which some may find useful.
As long as you think you have a better solution than vo, you will never
learn the power of it. I went through this thing where gee, I can use
jaws so much faster than vo and then one day, found myself breezing
through web sites and using things like the item chooser, the links
list, the find commands on the mac and one day, I picked up my pc after
a long time of not using it and just could not use jaws as efficiently
any more. what with all those keystrokes, jumping in and out of forms
mode and so on, I found the mac finally to be much more efficient. I
then did some analysis for hard factual data and realized that what I
was experiencing was born out. fewer keystrokes are necessary. less
guess work is necessary. navigation is easier, getting to what is
needed or desired is easier.
This is not a me thing. this is not a preference thing or an us vs
them thing, I am glad jaws was around when I needed it and didn't have
anything else. You do though have to apply yourself to the mac as
though you have nothing else to use to realize the full power of it.
On Aug 3, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Ricardo wrote:
Hi Russ,
I've had a mac for 14 months and I too find using the keystrokes to be
second nature. I must say though I use my windows Pc for my intensive
web browsing sessions. I just don't like the internet on the mac using
voiceover in comparison to windows with jaws. Don't get me wrong, The
browser with voiceover is useable on the mac, but I just feel like I
can navigate quicker on my windows machine.
Ricardo
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From: "Russell Solowoniuk" <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:14 PM
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [macvoiceover] Ready to take the plunge, but...
Hi all,
Okay, I'm ready to take the plunge and buy an iMac 20", but have just
one final question for everyone before I do...
I'm sure, like me, most of you have come from using Windows with
either Jaws or WindowEyes. For those of you who have been using the
Mac for a while now, would you say that you're as productive on the
Mac as you once were on Windows? I mean, for me, using Jaws is second
nature to me... I don't even need to think about what keystrokes to
use, I just interact with whatever program I need to to complete a
given task. Now, I know I've also been using Jaws for some 15 years
now, so don't expect to get to this level of proficiency overnight,
but what do you long time Mac users think? Has using the VO
keystrokes become second nature to you? Once one uses the Mac for a
while, does navigating in Safari become as easy as navigating IE with
Jaws or WE?
Thanks for any and all opinions!
Russell
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