I'll have to get back to you on that one. The only thing I've used xcode for thus far is compiling fink (www.finkproject.org) from source, not doing any actual dev work. Now, thanks to fink, I have a linux-like environment, and I'll probably use that for most of my dev work, especially since most of what I do is website backend stuff, and what I mostly plan on doing is using the mac as a local testing environment. I've given myself until Saturday to get used to OSX, before I start doing any real work with the system. I'm just joyriding until then. Amusingly enough, my major-in progress is journalism, not computer science; it's a long story.
On 12-Dec-07, at 7:27 PM, Rich Caloggero wrote:
Samuel Proulx writes:Hi Samuel. Just curious how you find xCode and developing/ programming on the mac with VoiceOver in general. Frankly, I have not looked at Leopard's xCode with VoiceOver yet, but my experience with dev tools under Tiger was not good. I still say a text editor and command line compiler seems to be the only way to program on mac with VoiceOver.well as install xcode and fink to get all the linux tools I'm used tofrom my server administration. I've also got google talk and skype ...Would be very interested in your comments when you have time... -- Rich----- Original Message ----- From: "Samuel Proulx" <samuel.proulx@xxxxxxxxx >To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: More new list members!Are you kidding? Paying Microsoft for another XP license, if they'll even sell me one now with vista, is the last thing I wanna do. Then, of course, I'd get to sort out jaws authorizations; I'm out of those, too. I've got an XP machine I can grab if I need it already, I don't need my macbook to pretend to be Xp, and in fact I'd rather it didn't.On 12-Dec-07, at 10:58 AM, David Poehlman wrote:are ya gonna put winders on it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Samuel Proulx" <samuel.proulx@xxxxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 10:47 AM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: More new list members! Hi,Thanks for the welcome! I've been meaning to post an intro message tothe list, but I just got my Mac 2 days ago, and I've been so busy doing things that I never got round to it. So, on the theory better late than never:I'm a 19 year old male from Toronto, Canada. I've used Windows since I was 10 years old, and other than basic linux administration, this ismy first experience switching OS's. I'm impressed that In just twodays, I've been able to get my mail, rss, and web browsing set-up, as well as install xcode and fink to get all the linux tools I'm used tofrom my server administration. I've also got google talk and skypeset up with little difficulty, and installed ogg and flac support foritunes/quicktime after some fighting. Other than MSN and a decent word processor (text edit is missing features I need), I haveeverything I need to make the OSX machine my main working machine. Itried to get MSN going, but Messenger for Mac doesn't make voiceoverhappy. I can't use a jabber transport with IChat because I need filetransfers. Once I do some basic research on these questions, I'll probably end up posting to the list about them. But I'll google, first. <grin> The reason I decided to switch in the first place isbecause my Windows machine blue-screened in the middle of a universitylecture, and I lost an entire class's worth of notes. A week before that, the university network infected me with a virus, even though I run an up-to-date virus checker and windows updates. I don't have time to deal with that stuff. Even if I can never do my assignmentson OSX for lack of a proper Microsoft Word replacement, at least I cantake notes in text edit with less risk of crashes in the midst ofclass. Thus far, this machine has never been rebooted, other than toinstall software updates. On 11-Dec-07, at 11:54 PM, Keith Reedy wrote:Hi folks and welcome new list members. I try to send a message to the list every few days to tell you all that we have new members among us, but, lately I have been falling down on the job. New members, please know that you are welcomehere. When you find the time, please check out the guides and otherhelps at www.icanworkthisthing.com under MAC with Voiceover. Thanks. Keith ReedyClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.com Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover
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