[macvoiceover] Re: Probably OT and vent beware!!! What is RFB&D thinking?

  • From: Jacob Schmude <j.schmude@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 09:55:21 -0500

I've been wondering about this myself. Perhaps an iTunes account could have a special flag set, if you've provided appropriate proof that you are entitled to such content. Once set, content like RFB&D or NLS would appear to you, those who aren't qualified (i.e. sighted :))need never even see it. I don't see this happening with NLS, at least, given their firmly against having their books played on a PC. I've no idea why they're taking such a ridiculous stance, but there you have it. If it's about security of their content, their logic is flawed, as locking their content to a hardware device won't stop anyone from copying it. Anyone with a patch cord and audio input could copy it, in fact, same as you'd record a cassette tape, and this is one form of copying they'd never be able to prevent, as to try and stop this would break compatibility with just about every pair of headphones on the market. True, it's not technically a digital copy, but with even a half decent audio card it would be very hard to distinguish the difference, especially if recorded with the right settings and it's not like their audiobooks are super high quality anyway. No matter what DRM they come up with for audio content, you can always record around it if nothing else. Don't get me wrong, I'd absolutely love to see this type of content provided through iTunes, and it wouldn't only benefit Mac users. I'm just not sure it'll ever happen.





On Dec 9, 2008, at 08:45, David Poehlman wrote:

I think they want vendors to come to them. It would have been perfectly fine for overdrive and rfbd to distribute through ITunes and provide a special key to access.

On Dec 9, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Tim Grady wrote:

Probably did, which leads me to wonder, on things where some kind of .drm is necessary like audio books for overdrive and the like, why isn't Apple a little more aggressive?
On Dec 9, 2008, at 5:04 AM, David Poehlman wrote:

must have cost them a bundle.

On Dec 9, 2008, at 1:16 AM, Tim Grady wrote:

It will tell you on the RFB&D web site that the files can only be played in devices that can support the .drm for Windows Media 10 or greater. It's just logical that they should make this option available for general download since most people own Windows based PC's. However, they are working on some sort of DAISY downloading system for us folk which is late in coming.
On Dec 8, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:


well, ok, I know what they are probably thinking: the easiest way for them to do DRM must have been Windows Media Player. But the whole thing is a major headache. Yes, you can now download RFB&D books. But forget playing them on your Mac or iPod or Victor Reader Stream for that matter. I thought they might work on my cell phone and who knows maybe they do, but I got an error when I tried to sync them with Windows Media player. Why couldn't they have just used a key like they do for their audio cds and like NLS does? I know the NLS setup doesn't prevent you from transfering to another NLS user's player but I think the RFB&D key does prevent transfering. At any rate, I'm very disappointed even though I can of course read the downloaded books on my Windows vmware fusion installation. I would have thought they could have found a way to be more inclusive rather than tying everything to Windows Media Player and Windows. even audible at least allows for playing their books on Mac computers and ipods, even if they don't let you activate devices without Windows. Very disappointing!!! If you are an RFB&D user, you might let them know how disappointed you are that they are tying their downloads totally to the Windows OS.





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