[macvoiceover] Re: Pages formatting issues. Please help
- From: Nicole Hutchins <nkhutch86@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 13:03:26 -0400
Sorry Keith… I was trying to keep it on topic of voice over but I guess it got
a little off track. My apologies.
Nicole
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 23, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Keith Reedy <wa9dro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> On May 23, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Keeping this within the Voiceover realm, and still hoping to work through
>> interfacing between Pages and MS Word, here’s what I’ve found so far when
>> trying to Send a Pges document through teh export function.
>>
>> Pages gives pretty good control over lists and bullets, and they seem to be
>> preserved when you import a Word doc into Pages, but even if I have
>> Voiceover reporting accurate page information, like for example lining up
>> text with tab stops, this doesnt’ get preserved when I export into MS Word.
>>
>> Right now it seems like Pages is the best option for generating documents
>> with Voiceover, best control over text, headers, footers etc., and the
>> export to pdf seems to work just fine For preserving formatting for visual
>> presentation. No surprise there, thats’ why pdf was invented years ago, to
>> work across platforms. Pdf doesn’t work as a bridge to send documents to an
>> MS Word user, as the conversion is only effective one way.
>>
>> So, short of MS office being made accessible, has anyone found a solution
>> for creating a document that can be shared with a Word user? Bean, iText
>> Express, and Text Edit don’t have enough accessibility of formatting, and
>> on-line collaboration tools like Google Docs aren’t functional enough with
>> Voiceover.
>>
>> I’m going to play around with my idea of using Pages for iCloud as an
>> option. I think it will work because it syncs from Pages on your machine
>> rather than requiring you to work on-line, which should give enough control
>> over your document. The flaw is trying to get formatted documents to someone
>> using MS Word with a non-Voiceover screenreader, but if you are trying to
>> interface with a sighted user they should be able to view and edit on-line
>> while a Voiceover user works from the full version of Pages on their own
>> machine.
>>
>> I’ll let the list know how my poking around turns out.
>>
>> Ian
>> .
>>> On May 23, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Nicole Hutchins <nkhutch86@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Really? I did not know this. I'll be looking into it. Because there has to
>>> be a better way. Then what I'm doing now. Thank you very much.
>>>
>>> Nicole
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On May 22, 2014, at 11:28 PM, covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That is correct, but with a valid copy of office 2010 or 13 you can
>>>> install WindowEyes for nothing.
>>>>
>>>> Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My understanding is that you then need a screenreader for you windows
>>>>> operation, am I correct iin this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian
>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 22, 2014, at 6:22 PM, covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> vmware fusion is definitely vo accessible and it allows you to run a
>>>>>> virtual machine on the mac, be sure to have plenty of memory (8 gigs
>>>>>> preferred) and you can run windows and actually switch back and forth
>>>>>> and have shared folders.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nicole Hutchins <nkhutch86@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is VMware fusion and is it vo accessible too?
>>>>>>> Ian, you make some good points.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nicole
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 22, 2014, at 4:55 PM, covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You could use vmware fusion and run windows on the same computer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nicole Hutchins <nkhutch86@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Olivia,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That’s what has been suggested to me by people which means I’d have
>>>>>>>>> to buy another computer just for work documents.
>>>>>>>>> Office is still inaccessible on the Mac, as far as I know so that
>>>>>>>>> might be my only option…since most offices use Windows PCs anyway. I
>>>>>>>>> was just hoping I wouldn’t have to buy a new computer just for this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nicole
>>>>>>>>>> On May 22, 2014, at 4:22 PM, Olivia Norman <olivianorman@xxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I must confess I use windows and office for word processing and
>>>>>>>>>> productivity for this exact reason! I just could never make pages do
>>>>>>>>>> what I needed! Now I also use office at work I just find it easier
>>>>>>>>>> and faster!
>>>>>>>>>> Olivia
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 22, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Nicole Hutchins <nkhutch86@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I know it probably seems like I totally don’t know anything by all
>>>>>>>>>>> the questions I ask here, but I really do need help with learning
>>>>>>>>>>> all this Mac stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am often sent word documents to edit but when I make the changes
>>>>>>>>>>> in Pages and send them back, I’m always told that the formatting is
>>>>>>>>>>> funky. I can’t seem to keep bulleted lists and alinement the way
>>>>>>>>>>> they were when they were originally sent to me. What am I doing
>>>>>>>>>>> wrong? How can I created bullets and keep them in line? Since I
>>>>>>>>>>> can’t see the alinement of text, is there a way for me to know if
>>>>>>>>>>> it is correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help guys.
>>>>>>>>>>> Nicole>
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