[macvoiceover] Re: Pages formatting issues. Please help
- From: Keith Reedy <wa9dro@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 12:57:39 -0400
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On May 23, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Keeping this within the Voiceover realm, and still hoping to work through
> interfacing between Pages and MS Word, here’s what I’ve found so far when
> trying to Send a Pges document through teh export function.
>
> Pages gives pretty good control over lists and bullets, and they seem to be
> preserved when you import a Word doc into Pages, but even if I have Voiceover
> reporting accurate page information, like for example lining up text with tab
> stops, this doesnt’ get preserved when I export into MS Word.
>
> Right now it seems like Pages is the best option for generating documents
> with Voiceover, best control over text, headers, footers etc., and the export
> to pdf seems to work just fine For preserving formatting for visual
> presentation. No surprise there, thats’ why pdf was invented years ago, to
> work across platforms. Pdf doesn’t work as a bridge to send documents to an
> MS Word user, as the conversion is only effective one way.
>
> So, short of MS office being made accessible, has anyone found a solution for
> creating a document that can be shared with a Word user? Bean, iText Express,
> and Text Edit don’t have enough accessibility of formatting, and on-line
> collaboration tools like Google Docs aren’t functional enough with Voiceover.
>
> I’m going to play around with my idea of using Pages for iCloud as an option.
> I think it will work because it syncs from Pages on your machine rather than
> requiring you to work on-line, which should give enough control over your
> document. The flaw is trying to get formatted documents to someone using MS
> Word with a non-Voiceover screenreader, but if you are trying to interface
> with a sighted user they should be able to view and edit on-line while a
> Voiceover user works from the full version of Pages on their own machine.
>
> I’ll let the list know how my poking around turns out.
>
> Ian
> .
> On May 23, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Nicole Hutchins <nkhutch86@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Really? I did not know this. I'll be looking into it. Because there has to
>> be a better way. Then what I'm doing now. Thank you very much.
>>
>> Nicole
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On May 22, 2014, at 11:28 PM, covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>
>>> That is correct, but with a valid copy of office 2010 or 13 you can
>>> install WindowEyes for nothing.
>>>
>>> Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My understanding is that you then need a screenreader for you windows
>>>> operation, am I correct iin this?
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>>> On May 22, 2014, at 6:22 PM, covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> vmware fusion is definitely vo accessible and it allows you to run a
>>>>> virtual machine on the mac, be sure to have plenty of memory (8 gigs
>>>>> preferred) and you can run windows and actually switch back and forth
>>>>> and have shared folders.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nicole Hutchins <nkhutch86@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What is VMware fusion and is it vo accessible too?
>>>>>> Ian, you make some good points.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nicole
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 22, 2014, at 4:55 PM, covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You could use vmware fusion and run windows on the same computer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nicole Hutchins <nkhutch86@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Olivia,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That’s what has been suggested to me by people which means I’d have to
>>>>>>>> buy another computer just for work documents.
>>>>>>>> Office is still inaccessible on the Mac, as far as I know so that
>>>>>>>> might be my only option…since most offices use Windows PCs anyway. I
>>>>>>>> was just hoping I wouldn’t have to buy a new computer just for this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nicole
>>>>>>>>> On May 22, 2014, at 4:22 PM, Olivia Norman <olivianorman@xxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I must confess I use windows and office for word processing and
>>>>>>>>> productivity for this exact reason! I just could never make pages do
>>>>>>>>> what I needed! Now I also use office at work I just find it easier
>>>>>>>>> and faster!
>>>>>>>>> Olivia
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On May 22, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Nicole Hutchins <nkhutch86@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I know it probably seems like I totally don’t know anything by all
>>>>>>>>>> the questions I ask here, but I really do need help with learning
>>>>>>>>>> all this Mac stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am often sent word documents to edit but when I make the changes
>>>>>>>>>> in Pages and send them back, I’m always told that the formatting is
>>>>>>>>>> funky. I can’t seem to keep bulleted lists and alinement the way
>>>>>>>>>> they were when they were originally sent to me. What am I doing
>>>>>>>>>> wrong? How can I created bullets and keep them in line? Since I
>>>>>>>>>> can’t see the alinement of text, is there a way for me to know if it
>>>>>>>>>> is correct?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help guys.
>>>>>>>>>> Nicole>
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