[macvoiceover] Re: Newbie Questions Day 2: Safari and the Web

  • From: Chris Hofstader <cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:42:48 -0500

Hi David,

I also use the item chooser, the list of links and the VO approach to quick keys but still find myself "lost" in portions of a page or unable to figure out how to get to places that I know are probably there but am uncertain of how it may be labeled. The total flattening of the virtual buffer in the other screen readers causes a lot of inefficiency resulting from turning everything into a laundry list of objects. VO, though, seems to build a box of boxes (which seems to work great for applications and, if they move in the direction of an r- tree sorting algorithm with some intelligence added, they may well be able to take screen reader UI well into this century) I find I have trouble finding the right "box" on many web pages.

This is probably due to ignorance but I cannot seem to find a way to do a SayAll in Html or PDF with VO. I get lots of long, scholarly stuff in these formats and I just want to hit a single keystroke and let it rip. I also want a single key stop speech but place me where I stopped as often my reason for stopping is so I can get the spelling of a word or person's name. I then want to restart the SayAll from the same point and continue until I feel like stopping again. If this is possible with VO, I haven't found out how in a pretty lot of reading. Again, this may be a vocabulary problem or that I'm brain damaged from a decade of JAWS on the brain.

Lastly, I can't quite figure out the Find (Command+F) in Safari with VO. Is there an analogue to the virtual searches in the Windows screen access tools?

Happy Hacking,
cdh

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