Thanks ginny for that cogent discourse on working with the garageband interface for I too have similar issues. When you press an "arrow button", it takes a while before its properties populate so as you move around the screen, you might not at first pick up the difference. This even happens on my high powered Mac Book Pro. There are so many things what with all the combinations of settings that I can become easily befuddled but I'm easily befuddled anyway. Garage band is one of the most complex accessible apps I have ever seen and I say that because even though you can use some of the stuff in windows that is complex, most of it is not that accessible. It would be helpful if more of the controls were labeled better like there is the word details, then an "arrow button" but it is not always apparent what that button is for unless you've been there before. I think what I really need is for someone who is really familiar with garage band whether they are familiar with vo or not to walk through some of the stuff with me at my prompting because I would like to stick to my approach before I do things differently. A lot of people go at this thing from the top down but I want to go at it from the bottom up and have been at least partially successfull at doing this. Learning in this way then provides the building blocks for higher functionality. I've already said too much. I'm working slowly on a guide to instramentation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ginny" <ginnyo@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:20 AM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: New Guide, Working with effects in GarageBand with voiceover Also, each time you change effects via the effect menus, you're likely to have other new menus with new possible options. In other words, if you select the compression eq from the pop-up menu, you will then be able to arrow over and select from certain compression options such as vocal basic, female, male, acoustic guitar, electric guitar, drums, etc. Each effect choice seems to provide a whole new plethora of options, in other words. And this is why I haven't had the guts to create a gb help file yet. <smile> You're so articulate, Keith. My ways of getting around the gb screen (and all other screens in computer aps) is much more...well...shall we say...unorthodox-and haphazard. <grin> Maybe once I have memorized all the VO keystrokes, I'll be able to be more succinct in my explanations. If I can get audio highjack pro up and running, though, I think I could make an audio tutorial/demonstration of building a gb file. You guys would just have to forgive my nutty navigation methods. On another note, I've been in the Apple store again playing with Logic. I'm going to get to the bottom of it sooner or later. The really cool thing is that all the loop names and instrument sets--hip-hop. Rock, etc.--are readable with VO. I plan to take all the logic shortcut key commands in to the store in the next several days and see what I can get accomplished. <grin> Since the techs don't know voiceover, that's the only way I can think to figure it out. -----Original Message----- From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 6:20 AM To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: New Guide, Working with effects in GarageBand with voiceover This is interesting and helpful. you can also do this for software instrament but it's slightly different as the effects have default settings I guess depending on your instrament. My favorite effect in any case is reverb and you can set these for the Mike as well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Reedy" <WA9DRO@xxxxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:39 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] New Guide, Working with effects in GarageBand with voiceover Working with Effects in GarageBand with Voiceover If you have not downloaded GarageBand Quick Guide for Leopard with Voiceover basic use or GarageBand Keyboard Shortcuts please do so. These guides will help you to learn GarageBand with Voiceover. You can find them at: www.icanworkthisthing.com under Mac with Voiceover or at: www.lioncourt.com Using Effects. To get to the effects list, press VO keys spacebar on the arrow, just to the left of details. This will take you into a list of effects. Many effects from noise gate,equalization, echo and reverb and the list goes on The one we will talk about here is echo since it is the one that is the most easily noticeable. First of all, make sure the box that allows echo is checked with VO keys spacebar then VO keys right arrow until you come to a horizontal slider which, by default, should be at zero. Interact with this slider to adjust the amount of echo you would like. After you have done this and given your track a try you may decide that the length of the echo is too long or the number of echoes are too many. Here's how to adjust them: first of all, use VO keys-home to get to the top of the track window. Now with VO keys- right arrow continue to right arrow until you get to two buttons. In this case, I am using a real instrument track, so the first button will say real instrument which is the one currently selected. VO once to the right, to the master track button and select it with VO keys spacebar. With this button selected, you can make a number of changes like tempo, time signature and key. Continue past these with VO Keys-right arrow until you come to effects, which you have enabled. VO Keys-right arrow until you come to thee edit button and select this button with VO keys-spacebar. You will find that you can make a number of changes with sliders, by interacting with them. When you have made your changes, you can exit that menu with escape. Then go back to the left with VO Keys-left arrow and VO keys-spacebar on the real instrument button, as I said earlier, I am working in a real instrument track. Not all effects windows are created equal, take for instance, the EQ or equalizer window, known as Visual EQ.. Check the box that says, Visual EQ, with VO keys-spacebar. Next to this check box is a button, which in its default state will say: manual pop up button. This buttons name will change with your new setting. You may find an edit button just to the right of this button, pressing, VO keys-spacebar on either should drop down a menu. You can now arrow through a number of preset EQ choices. Your ear will help you to make the right choice. When you have made your choice, you can leave this menu with escape. 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