[macvoiceover] Re: Navigating the Web
- From: JEFFREY SHOCKLEY <jawswizard@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:56:12 -0500
Hi,
Another quick way to get help with VO commands is to press VO H Twice.
HTH,
Jeffrey
On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
> If you read the voiceover manual you will find commands to do all these
> things, and if you don't like the default ones, you will find many ways to
> make new ones more suitable for your needs. For now, vo command h navigates
> through headers, VO command j through controls, vo command l through links,
> and there are many others. Using the shift key along with all of these
> commands will go the opposite direction.
> As for your problem with deleting text, if you want your cursor to behave the
> same way Windows screen readers made you believe it behaved, open the vo
> utility with vo f8, go to the verbosity category, then to the text tab, and
> set the popup button that says "when moving the cursor" to "speak text to the
> right of the cursor". The default is "speak text the cursor passes", which I
> personally prefer. The idea is that visually, the cursor is always in between
> characters and not on the actual characters. So what windows screen readers
> do is to always read what's to the right of the cursor. The way VO handles
> this by default is to tell you what the cursor just passed, so if for example
> you read the word boy starting from the left, after you get to letter y it
> will repeat letter y when you start arrowing to the left, because you
> actually passed through letter y again. I don't think this is a good way of
> explaining it and I've seen people on this list explain it in much better
> ways, so hopefully they'll help you out. I love this way of using the cursor
> because it seems faster for me and I got used to it.
>
> IC
> On Dec 28, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Several members of this list have indicated that they find navigating the
>> internet simpler with VoiceOver and the Mac...Coming from a Windows
>> environment and using JFW, I wonder if anybody would be so kind as to create
>> a simple tutorial that covers:
>>
>> In JFW I would use quick keys to jump through content..."x" to go to the
>> next checkbox and "h" to go to the next heading. I'm finding navigating
>> through web pages extremely cumbersome with VoiceOver and Safari.
>>
>> Also, I am finding it difficult to edit text. Is there a trick to knowing
>> what character will be deleted when I hit the delete key and where inserted
>> text might end up? Sometimes the character I am on is deleted and sometimes
>> the character to the left. I am never sure which will happen.
>>
>> Thx,
>> Jeff
>>
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