Hi, We removed both Adium and Syrinx from the run at login feature, leaving nothing executing at start up other than VO and Finder and problem remains that I cannot get to the menus on the items associated with running programs on my dock. This is starting to really suck. cdh> > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >