[macvoiceover] Mac Newbie Questions: 1 Mail/was:RE: Re: Introduction
- From: "Chris Hofstader" <cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:28:10 -0500
Hi and thanks for the welcome,
As I said yesterday, I've been using my Macintosh since July and full time
since mid-October. I still come across actions and events that I cannot
figure out or things that are so different from the way things work on
Windows (to a large extent with Orca as well) and I grow a bit baffled. I'm
finally passed my biggest hurdle which was using JAWS keystrokes to try to
make things happen in VoiceOver and in learning how using cursor keys to
navigate text on a Macintosh, the latter was so confounding that I thought
I'd never figure it out. Now, I've done a near 180 and really enjoy the
system and have been professing its virtues on the blog lately.
I do have questions, lots of them. I will look at the pointer you sent
yesterday but, for now, I'll post a few that I think should be pretty easy
regarding OSX Mail here and hope you experts can help this newbie along as
some areas seem like they should be obvious but, for some reason, I can't
figure them out. I spent a couple of hours in Mail this morning poking
around to try to find these answers on my own and failed, I find that some
of my problems moving from Windows/JAWS to Mac/VoiceOver is purely
vocabulary and that I may read something on the Macintosh that would mean
something very different on Windows - maybe we can get Roget to do a
Thesaurus on computational terminology.
Mail:
1. How does one turn off the thing Outlook on Windows calls the "preview
pane," as when I review new messages in the message table, they get marked
as read and moved to the Trash folder. I like to move around in the table
to decide what I care to read in what order (if Fruchterman or Vanderheiden
writes, I read immediately; if a friend is looking for lunch, I may wait).
So, how do I keep these messages from being marked as read just because they
appeared in the preview panel for a couple of seconds, how do I turn the
preview panel off altogether and how can I keep read messages in my Inbox so
I can return to them later?
2. How does one navigate up and down through the Message table quickly? I
often have hundreds of messages but PAGE-UP and PAGE-DOWN, HOME and END do
not seem to have any effect in tables in general and the Messages table
specifically.
3. How can one move their Outlook contacts to OSX Mail or Address Book? I
have well over a thousand contacts and need to somehow automate this
process. I did not see .PST files as a possibility in the Address Book
import/export menu item.
While unrelated to Mail, I'll toss in a closing question which will help me
prioritize future questions: Does anyone here know anything about MacSpeach?
Happy Hacking,
cdh
Chris Hofstader
email: cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Blog: http://www.blindconfidential.blogspot.com
Skype: BlindChristian
-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Reedy
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 1:02 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Introduction
Hi Chris,
Welcome to the list.
First of all, there is a great list of guides, links and helps at,
www.icanworkthisthing.com
under
MAC with Voiceover. You mite want to go through, Using MAC
applications with Voiceover, lots of help for a new MAC user.
I think if you will address your questions one at a time, we can all
kick it around a little better.
Glad you like the MAC, had mine for almost 4 years and I have been MAC
only for almost that long.
again, welcome.
Keith Reedy
On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
> Hi,
>
> A lot of you may already know me either personally or by
> reputation. I had
> been a VP at Freedom Scientific up until four years ago and have been
> consulting for many other AT organizations since. I write the
> BlindConfidential blog (link below) and often appear as a talking
> head on
> panel discussions and such.
>
> For many years, I had been a Windows only person, now I use multiple
> operating environments including Macintosh OSX Leopard. I've
> enjoyed the
> Macintosh so much that it has become my primary computer for things
> like
> email, writing and performing other tasks in OpenOffice and lots of
> other
> cool stuff that you folks probably know much better than I do.
>
> I have read the documentation for VoiceOver and a lot of the help
> files that
> came with the Mac and various applications - obviously some are
> better than
> others. Thus, I have a pile of what I think are newbie questions
> about
> using Mac with VO. I've been using it with increasing success for
> about
> five or six months now and keep getting better but I do find some
> things
> frustrating, mostly because I cannot find solutions to my issues in
> the
> documentation anywhere.
>
> If you haven't read the BC blog lately, you might take a peak as it is
> increasingly saying nice things about Apple and Macintosh and
> VoiceOver.
> I've almost gone completely native but I still like some things
> about JAWS
> and/or System Access on Windows and Orca on Ubuntu.
>
> So, as a matter of etiquette on this list, should I post a laundry
> list of
> questions about largely unrelated aspects of OSX with VO or should I
> put
> them into separate messages to preserve thread continuity? I'll
> assume the
> latter but wait to hear from a few of you to see if I might be wrong.
>
> Happy Hacking,
> cdh
>
> Chris Hofstader
> email: cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Blog: http://www.blindconfidential.blogspot.com
> Skype: BlindChristian
>
>
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